Sorry, I did not mean to impugn your position or make any personally offensive remarks. If I've made any, I sincerely apologize. All I meant to say was that it's not possible to be a conservative and pro-WO consistently, that is, taking the Bible at its word. What we see with pro-WO advocates here such as Patrick is that they necessarily have to leave the bounds of Scripture, or call it incomplete, or call it outright doctored (as N.T. Wright claims). It's simply not logically possible to do otherwise, as the weight of the Bible in favor of male spiritual leadership is simply one-sided and overwhelming. Now, is it possible to be conservative once the doctrine of Scripture has been compromised? You tell me, I say it is highly unlikely. That's all. I hope you can take it without offense, for none was intended.