What are your views on John Henry Newman

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  1. Aidan

    Aidan Well-Known Member

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    What are your views on John Henry Cardinal Newman as a theologian and a convert to Roman Catholicism?
     
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    Lowly Layman Well-Known Member Anglican

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    He had an amazing intellect and a powerful voice. It's a shame he swam the Tiber.
     
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    Anne Active Member Anglican

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    ^about all there is to be said.
     
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    Lowly Layman Well-Known Member Anglican

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    Read this from Father Newman:

    comes from

    Sermon 24: The Power of the Will by John Henry Newman Volume V
    [Note: Preached on Quinquagesima.]

    Sermon 24
    http://www.lectionarycentral.com/trinity21/NewmanEpistle.html
     
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    Some would argue that JHN was our gift to the Roman Communion, and that his was one of the voices that drove Vatican II.

    I think my favorite JHN is 'One would do nothing at all if one waited until one could do it so well that none could find fault'.

    There is of course the argument that he was largely driven from the Anglican Church, rather than he left it.
     
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    Please explain the argument which maintains he was pushed
     
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    As I understand it, it was the harshness of those around who took a different view to JHN, that ultimately led him to the position where he felt his only option was to leave the faith community of his forbears. The question is always how elastic can the Anglican position be. The question of Mutual Responsibility and Interdependence within the body of Christ calls us all to listen as well as speak. It is a while since I read Apologia but I took his point that he had tried to be a faithful Anglican until he felt there was no place left for him.
     
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    Both Newman and Chesterton would've had a heart attack if they saw the current state of the RCC today. What some claim drove them to join the RCC are now among the reasons many have left the RCC since the V2 reforms, including sex scandals, heresy being taught by inept priest, poor catechization of adherents, etc.

    You will find no end of Roman Catholic articles online celebrating Anglican conversions to the RCC. In contrast, you'll find few that point the other way around. All Google can bring up for me most of the time is not RC conversion to traditional Anglicanism but RC conversion to the liberal Episcopal Church in favor of gay marriage, abortion, premarital sex, etc. which is an embarrassment to Anglicans who hold to traditional biblical morality. It makes it seem like they have no good reason to leave the RCC except to endorse sin. RCCs often talk about Anglicans like they are a piece of fertilizer. I myself am sick of it.
     
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    In the Pacific Northwest there are few Traditional Anglican churches, whereas Episcopal churches are everywhere.:no:
     
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    Terrific writer, blessed man, it is unfortunate he went to Rome. Still one of my favorite writers.
     
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    Agreed.
     

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