Leaving Rome for Traditional Anglicanism

Discussion in 'Faith, Devotion & Formation' started by CFLawrence, Jul 19, 2018.

  1. Peteprint

    Peteprint Well-Known Member Anglican

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    I would agree about Newman as well. If you are leaving Rome for Anglicanism, reading Newman is counter intuitive. Pusey would be a better choice.
     
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  2. CFLawrence

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    Well, at this point I have enough material to take me into next year. I have downloaded all your recommendations. I will purchase Mere Christianity soon.

    Peteprint... I downloaded a bunch of Pusey sermons but I also chose some material on devotion to Mary. In my OP when I used the word detox that was the sort of thing I was looking for. But his stuff looks excellent. I am yet to read his translation of Augustine’s Confessions.

    I also downloaded some Nicholas Ridley and Hugh Latimer. If those two pass your tough standards then I’m putting my reading list to bed.

    Give me some criticism if you would all be so kind on my choice of Ridley and Latimer... I think this is my last post in this thread. Thank you all for all your help, and thank you in advance for any further advice and recommendations.
     
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    Stalwart Well-Known Member Anglican

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    This wasn't addressed to me but I would say that Ridley and Latimer are phenomenal. Nothing refutes the charge of Anglican Reformers being calvinist (ie. submissive to theologians on the Continent) better than reading the actual Anglican Reformers. Just as the Carolines weren't Papal-leaning, so the Reformers weren't Calvin-leaning. Anglican theologians historically have always been very insular and more interested in the past than anyone from the present era.
     
  4. Peteprint

    Peteprint Well-Known Member Anglican

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    I am not as familiar with Ridley as I should be, but what I have read of Latimer's I have thoroughly enjoyed. What is always important to keep in mind is that, unlike Lutheranism and Calvinism, Anglicanism doesn't have a single theologian that we turn to for answers (I would say the early Church Fathers are the most authoritative for us). As Lancelot Andrewes said,

    “One canon reduced to writing by God himself, two testaments, three creeds, four general councils, five centuries, and the series of Fathers in that period, the centuries that is, before Constantine, and two after, determine the boundary of our faith.”

    That leaves a lot of room for individual interpretation.
     
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  5. anglican74

    anglican74 Well-Known Member Anglican

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    My contribution to this thread would be to give not a book but lyrics... Now normally lyrics are pretty light-weight stuff, but this may be the greatest hymn written by human hands in the last five hundred years, and it explains so much of what it means to be a Traditional Anglican...


    https://hymnary.org/text/the_churchs_one_foundation



    1 The Church’s one foundation
    Is Jesus Christ her Lord,
    She is His new creation
    By water and the Word.
    From heaven He came and sought her
    To be His holy bride;
    With His own blood He bought her
    And for her life He died.

    2 She is from every nation,
    Yet one o’er all the earth;
    Her charter of salvation,
    One Lord, one faith, one birth;
    One holy Name she blesses,
    Partakes one Holy Food,
    And to one Hope she presses,
    With every grace endued.

    3 The Church shall never perish!
    Her dear Lord to defend,
    To guide, sustain, and cherish,
    Is with her to the end:
    Though there be those who hate her,
    And false sons in her pale,
    Against or foe or traitor
    She ever shall prevail.

    4 Though with a scornful wonder
    Men see her sore oppressed,
    By schisms rent asunder,
    By heresies distressed:
    Yet saints their watch are keeping,
    Their cry goes up, “How long?”
    And soon the night of weeping
    Shall be the morn of song!

    5 ’Mid toil and tribulation,
    And tumult of her war,
    She waits the consummation
    Of peace forevermore;
    Till, with the vision glorious,
    Her longing eyes are blest,
    And the great Church victorious
    Shall be the Church at rest.

    6 Yet she on earth hath union
    With God the Three in One,
    And mystic sweet communion
    With those whose rest is won,
    With all her sons and daughters
    Who, by the Master’s Hand
    Led through the deathly waters,
    Repose in Eden land.

    7 O happy ones and holy!
    Lord, give us grace that we
    Like them, the meek and lowly,
    On high may dwell with Thee:
    There, past the border mountains,
    Where in sweet vales the Bride
    With Thee by living fountains
    Forever shall abide! Amen
     
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  6. JoeLaughon

    JoeLaughon Well-Known Member Anglican

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    St Augustine's Prayer Book
    The Anglican Way by Fr. Thomas McKenzie
    The Shape of Sola Scriptura by Keith Mathison
    Roman but not Catholic by Kenneth Collins & Jeremy Walls
     
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    A glorious hymn! Roman Catholics don’t understand the theology contained in a hymn. I don’t own my own copy of a hymnal yet but I want a copy of Hymns Ancient and Modern.
     
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    One more outstanding book recommendation and I’m canceling my cable tv.
     
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    Hello folks Anglican and otherwise. After I started this thread I never formulated a reading plan but as I am being received into TEC this Easter and I’m in need of a really basic review of Christianity before I delve into the books on this thread, I’ve come up with a list. Here are the next two to three months readings. When I finish I’ll come back here and tell you what is next on my plate. I hope new Anglicans/Episcopalians find this helpful. This, in my opinion would be a good start for the un-churched.

    Augustine- Enchiridion
    Luther- Large and Small Catechisms
    C.S. Lewis- Mere Christianity, Letters to Malcolm, and Reflections on the Psalms
    N.T. Wright- Simply Christian
    Brother Lawrence- The Practice of the Presence of God

    These are easy reads with an eye to the practice of prayer.

    Let me know what you think.

    CF Lawrence
     
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    Just a quick follow up... here is the rest of my list to be read between now and Easter... or as much as possible between then and now...

    Athanasius- On The Incarnation
    Benedict- Rule
    Michael Ramsey- The Anglican Spirit, and, The Gospel and the Catholic Church
    Luke Timothy Johnson- The Creed, and, Living Jesus
    Richard Foster- Celebration of Discipline

    Again, what I have decided I need is basic Christian catechesis and then I will start on the books that have been recommended to me.

    Thank you
     
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