New Prayer Book

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    Jeffg New Member

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    I understand that the ACNA has just published a new worship book "Book of Common Prayer 2019". I just started attending an ACNA congregation occasionally. What is the differance between this new worship book and the 1928 BCP as well as the changes made in TEP 1970's BCP ?
     
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    Whats your impression ? Better than the 1928 ? I've glanced at some of the downloads that are avaialble, but am curiouse about how/what people thingk about it. Theologicaly sound ?
     
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    I’m still trying to figure out what about the last three of the seven commonly-recognized ecumenical councils they disagree with. The wording is very bizarre and zero clarification is given.
     
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    4. Concerning the seven Councils of the undivided Church, we affirm the teaching of the first four Councils and the Christo-logical clarifications of the fifth, sixth and seventh Councils, in so far as they are agreeable to the Holy Scriptures.

    The question is: Where do the 5th,6th and 7th Councils agree/disagree with Holy Scripture regarding Christo-logical stuff ? Any insights/Scripture quotes, etc. ???? As I do not have the material from these Councils in front of me, I cannot comment.
     
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    Hey, I'm an ACNA priest and have been following the development of the 2019 BCP pretty closely since 2013. So feel free to hit me up with questions - I don't know everything of course, but I do know a few things. I keep a daily blog (link) devoted to teaching and modeling Anglican liturgy, based on the 2019 book.

    In terms of format of the book and the "order of service" 2019 and 1979 are very similar. The contemporary "novus ordo" liturgical revision is largely preserved here. This is, I understand, reflective of the fact that the majority of American Anglicans have been using the 1979 book for decades, now.

    The best way to understand the 2019 book is to see it as a revision of the 1979 book, rolled back closer to the 1928. If you look at the text of the Communion prayers, for example, the rite is much more akin to the historic Prayer Books than the 1979. If you look at the Baptism, Confirmation, Marriage, Ordination, Burial services, they look like 1979 but read more like the 1928. The Daily Office, too, is 1979-ish but with the traditional background more clearly marked out.

    If you're a die-hard 1928 (or 1662!) fan, you're not going to like this book, because it's not the 1928 (or the 1662). If you're a 1979 fan, you still might not like this book because it's got fewer choices. They made this book with a massive amount of province-wide collaboration and feedback, and with an eye to make this book as usable to as many people as possible, regardless of churchmanship or party or disposition. There's no pleasing everyone, obviously, but they did the best they could under the circumstances.

    That also explains the seven councils reference issue... high church folks love their seven councils, low church folks love their four. The language of compromise (specifically upholding Christological dogma) keeps us on the same page and increases our capacity for continued (or renewed) common prayer under one book.

    I think the 2019 book is theologically sound. It could be better in terms of liturgical traditionalism and clarity, but the more precise one gets, the more partisan one gets. It's not perfect, and I have my own list of ways it could be improved, but I'm happy enough with it.

    (btw, it's not in print yet... couple more months still)
     
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    Thank yoiu Fr. Brench for you response, very enlightening !!! Can't wait to see the finished product when it come out (June ??) . Haveing been brought up "half Epsicopalian" (other half Lutheran...thus I am "Lutherpalian") and a lover of the liturgy, I have been kind of waiting for an updated BCP from the Continuing Church Anglican Tradition. I've always kind of wondered what took so long for one of the Continuing Churchs to come up with a newer BCP , since a lot seem to have separated over the 1979 BCP, and the stuff promolgated in from the 1976/77 TEC Convention, which seems to have caused so many splits.
     
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    Hi, Jeff. Actually, to my knowledge, none of the "Continuing" churches have come out with a new BCP. Most use the 1928 American version that was in use prior to the 1979. Normally the ACNA is not referred to as a continuing church, but instead, is part of the Anglican realignment movement. None of the continuing bodies ordain women, something which the ACNA does. I am looking forward to seeing the printed ACNA BCP as well; I have been very impressed by the examples on the ACNA website.
     
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