Michael Voris (Church Militant)

He's a rad-trad from the website Church Militant who is surprisingly not a sedevecantist or in the SSPX. Nonetheless, his comments and attitude is very mean-spirited. People say the rest of the Catholics are too wimpy to 'tell it like it is' and will put up with his contentiousness simply to hear 'the truth', but seriously, do we have to? I've had experiences with these kinds of people before and it's not good in the long run. What do you think of him?

 

Never hear of him

 

Yeah, he's basically like a Catholic Fox News commentator.

 

Glad I don't know of them then

 

Well don't you think that someone needs to be there who says the "hard things"? I definitely think that Voris does it wrongly in that it's unpleasant and nasty even for his own fan base. But where he's coming from I totally understand.

We have never had such a wimpy generation of Christians as at the present moment. Just when the Christian civilization is about to be overthrown, and persecutions are not in the future but already in the present, it is the Christian leaders who are driving us into 47 genders, post-birth abortions, open communism and socialism. There was an article that "a ban on conversion therapy" was supported by hundreds of ordained clergy. Well those clergy are plainly heretics, either of a void ordination or that need to be stripped and thrown on the street. But they are ascendant; the faithful clergy are on the run. Just last week another relatively decent RC priest in Texas was defrocked and thrown on the street, merely for not towing the liberal/secular/hellish idelogy.

Not necessarily in the tone of voice that Voris uses, but something just like those phrases nonetheless? Is Voris really the problem, or is it the heretics driving our entire world off a cliff?

 

I agree with Stalwart. We have to defend the truth. I don't nkow of this guy so I don't have an opinion on him

 

I don't know Voris the man, but I joined that forum a couple of years ago. Immediately an established member took issue with what I'd posted, I defended what I'd said from the standpoint of the Bible, we went back and forth for about 3 days, and next thing I knew I was banned from the site. It seemed that they didn't like their doctrine being contradicted from the word of God. Not friendly, and not open-minded. It was 'their way or the highway.'

Defending their version of 'the truth' by silencing the opposition isn't very encouraging, although admittedly the technique has been used historically to great effect.

 

I don't know about Michael Voris specifically, but try to appreciate the severe cognitive dissonance that trad RCs suffer from. Imagine believing that:
1. Whatever was popular in the late 19th century Roman Church, liturgically and theologically, was all correct.
2. The One True Church cannot possibly change.
3. The current RCC is the One True Church.

The mental gymnastics involved can make people cranky. It's like if you were a trad Anglican and also believing that Archbishop Justin Welby was the One True Archbishop of Canterbury, had universal jurisdiction over the whole church, and couldn't possibly defect from the Anglicanism of Hooker and Bicknell.

 

Mental gymnastics, indeed!

 

I never said we didn't, it's more of the manner that people say it. For instance, he insulted a black Catholic archbishop by calling him an "African Queen" and was condemned by his diocese for this.

 

Is Voris supportive of gay rights? I understand he's conducted interviews with Milo Yiannopoulos more than once. I've read that Milo has said the age of consent between men should in his opinion be lowered to 16.

 

No, Voris claims to be a former practicing homosexual. Which isn't so much a bad thing, I just think he should cut it with the insulting language and other things of that sort. You can tell the truth without necessarily being a creep.

 

Sorry for the back to back post, but here's a good article: https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/...e-details-for-the-militant-michael-voris-3274

The thread should be locked or deleted before it gets worse, since it's already going down the wrong lane.

Mod: done as requested.