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  1. Botolph

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    I understand that there are different viewpoints. More that half the deaths that have occured in Australia have been where there has been a breach in infection controls. There will be economic consequences of the actions that we have taken. And we have to ask ourselves, are we prepared to put people before profit? And for those of us who believe that we are following Jesus we might ask ourselves where Jesus would see the balance. We are getting ready to start rolling back some of the restrictions, and hopefully we will manage that well. You may call it an over-reaction, however I would not see it as such. Has it resulted in a curtailment of some of my individual liberties for the good of all in the short term. Well, yes it has, and I think that is part of the social contract where we have to find a balance between personal good and the well being of all. Really it is the same as paying tax.

    I think my point is we to have some sense of the scale and enormity of the problem.
     
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    A well researched article where data is accurately presented.

    The real problem with the covid crisis is the fact that the world is grappling with two distinct but intimately related and dependent issues.

    1) The virus, infection and morbidity.

    The virus is obviously peculiar and unusual in the way it incubates, infects and affects it's victims.
    In some people and certain ethnicities it is more lethal than others.
    A danger exists of a runaway infection rate. The 'R' factor must be kept below 1 or an exponential infection rate inevitably results, as with any other pandemic spread.
    The only way to keep the 'R' factor below 1, until an effective vaccine and imunisation is possible, is social distancing, increased personal hygiene, Personal Protective Equipment and testing with follow up and isolation of spreaders.

    2) Economic chaos caused by essential defence strategy against the increase of 'R' rate of infection in populations.

    Most western countries are economically dependent on transactional interaction for personal gain, for population wellbeing and survival.
    If you (cannot/do not/will not) work for me profitably, I will not pay you. If you will not pay me according to my value to your enterprise I will not work for you.
    Your health and welfare are your own affair, I am only interested in your efficiency in providing me with profit. Your enterprise is of no interst to me because I have no reward for the profit I deliver to it other than the meager wage I get.

    The economic assumptions underlying overt capitalist philosophy, (predominantly adopted in western civilisation), are in direct opposition to the only effective means of reducing the 'R' infection rate and therefore the proportional death rate of the covid virus pandemic.

    It is the "Am I my Brother's keeper?" attitude, of those who care little for their 'brothers and sisters' welfare, both Emloyer, Employee and Governments, that constitutes the 'intractable log jam' in dealing effectively with this pandemic virus plague.

    What is needed is an application of a different kind of economic mindset, such as THIS:

    "For the kingdom of heaven is like a master of a house who went out early in the morning to hire laborers for his vineyard. After agreeing with the laborers for a denarius a day, he sent them into his vineyard. And going out about the third hour he saw others standing idle in the marketplace, and to them he said, ‘You go into the vineyard too, and whatever is right I will give you.’ So they went. Going out again about the sixth hour and the ninth hour, he did the same. And about the eleventh hour he went out and found others standing. And he said to them, ‘Why do you stand here idle all day?’ They said to him, ‘Because no one has hired us.’ He said to them, ‘You go into the vineyard too.’ And when evening came, the owner of the vineyard said to his foreman, ‘Call the laborers and pay them their wages, beginning with the last, up to the first.’ And when those hired about the eleventh hour came, each of them received a denarius. Now when those hired first came, they thought they would receive more, but each of them also received a denarius. And on receiving it they grumbled at the master of the house, saying, ‘These last worked only one hour, and you have made them equal to us who have borne the burden of the day and the scorching heat.’ But he replied to one of them, ‘Friend, I am doing you no wrong. Did you not agree with me for a denarius? Take what belongs to you and go. I choose to give to this last worker as I give to you. Am I not allowed to do what I choose with what belongs to me? Or do you begrudge my generosity?’ So the last will be first, and the first last.” Matt.20:1-16.

    The big question is: Where does money come from? Who produces it, controls it's distribution and apportions it, according to which criteria, Kingdom of Heaven principles or Kingdom of Satan principles? Matt.4:9.
     
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    Vitamin D: everyone go outside and get some sun every day! Research at Northwestern University shows a link between low Vitamin D and high Covid mortality.

    "After studying global data from the novel coronavirus (COVID-19) pandemic, researchers have discovered a strong correlation between severe vitamin D deficiency and mortality rates.
    Led by Northwestern University, the research team conducted a statistical analysis of data from hospitals and clinics across China, France, Germany, Italy, Iran, South Korea, Spain, Switzerland, the United Kingdom (UK) and the United States.
    The researchers noted that patients from countries with high COVID-19 mortality rates, such as Italy, Spain and the UK, had lower levels of vitamin D compared to patients in countries that were not as severely affected.
    This does not mean that everyone — especially those without a known deficiency — needs to start hoarding supplements, the researchers caution.
    “While I think it is important for people to know that vitamin D deficiency might play a role in mortality, we don’t need to push vitamin D on everybody,” said Northwestern’s Vadim Backman, who led the research. “This needs further study, and I hope our work will stimulate interest in this area. The data also may illuminate the mechanism of mortality, which, if proven, could lead to new therapeutic targets.”
    The research is available on medRxiv, a preprint server for health sciences.
    Backman is the Walter Dill Scott Professor of Biomedical Engineering at Northwestern’s McCormick School of Engineering. Ali Daneshkhah, a postdoctoral research associate in Backman’s laboratory, is the paper’s first author.
    Backman and his team were inspired to examine vitamin D levels after noticing unexplained differences in COVID-19 mortality rates from country to country. Some people hypothesized that differences in healthcare quality, age distributions in population, testing rates or different strains of the coronavirus might be responsible. But Backman remained skeptical.
    “None of these factors appears to play a significant role,” Backman said. “The healthcare system in northern Italy is one of the best in the world. Differences in mortality exist even if one looks across the same age group. And, while the restrictions on testing do indeed vary, the disparities in mortality still exist even when we looked at countries or populations for which similar testing rates apply.
    “Instead, we saw a significant correlation with vitamin D deficiency,” he said.
    By analyzing publicly available patient data from around the globe, Backman and his team discovered a strong correlation between vitamin D levels and cytokine storm — a hyperinflammatory condition caused by an overactive immune system — as well as a correlation between vitamin D deficiency and mortality."
    See the rest of the article here: https://archive.fo/3s2Bf
     
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    There is a lot more work to be done in this area. The mortality rates between Germany and Italy,
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    Would seem counter to the proposition suggested. Given the American cult of clean and stunning health system to envy of much of the world, the outcomes seem to suggest that there are other things in play. The difference between to Caseload to the Fatalities in some jurisdictions is significant, Belgium and the Netherlands as against Saudi Arabia or Pakistan. There is a lot more work to be done here.
     
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    Psalm 146

    Praise the Lord, O my soul; while I live will I praise the Lord *
    yea, as long as I have any being, I will sing praises unto my God.

    O put not your trust in princes, nor in any child of man *
    for there is no help in them.

    For when the breath of man goeth forth he shall turn again to his earth *
    and then all his thoughts perish.

    Blessed is he that hath the God of Jacob for his help *
    and whose hope is in the Lord his God;

    Who made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that therein is *
    who keepeth his promise for ever.

    Who helpeth them to right that suffer wrong *
    who feedeth the hungry.

    The Lord looseth men out of prison *
    the Lord giveth sight to the blind.

    The Lord helpeth them that are fallen *
    the Lord careth for the righteous.

    The Lord careth for the strangers; he defendeth the fatherless and widow *
    as for the way of the ungodly, he turneth it upside down.

    The Lord thy God, O Sion, shall be King for evermore *
    and throughout all generations.​
     
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    You can't beat the prayer book poetry! Wonderful!
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