Is this the beginning of the end for the Ordinariate

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  1. anglican74

    anglican74 Well-Known Member Anglican

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    As per the news earlier today about Pope francis decapitating traditional roman catholicism, I’ve seen some commentstors draw the inevitable conclusions about how the logic in principle applies to the Ordinariate as well…. Wow!

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    Shane R Well-Known Member

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    There were many of us that always suspected this would be the end game of the Ordinariates. The Western Rite Orthodox vicariates were always fairly open that they were intended to be a transitional phase with the end goal being to fully indoctrinate the faithful into Eastern Orthodoxy. The Ordinariates messed up their own process by getting bishops, grandfathering in the older Anglican Use parishes, and producing an actual Missal instead of just trial texts. So they effectively set the project back a solid 10 years on what was presumably always the goal, to make contemporary Roman Catholics.

    Many people don't know or remember this, but the rules for who can become a full member of an Ordinariate parish are quite restrictive. Sure, a trad Catholic can go to the Mass every week for an extended period of time but they cannot generally join the parish formally. That, more than anything, reveals what the true intention was. It wasn't meant to be a rite with equal standing, it was a bone thrown to some Anglicans and Episcopalians.
     
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    PDL Well-Known Member Anglican

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    I strongly agree that Traditionis custodes and its application have not been very well thought out. This is partly due to removing the well-educated experts from the Congregation for Divine Worship and the Discipline of the Sacraments and replacing them with Pope Francis' sycophants. They do not seem capable of writing anything that is coherent. Of course, if the Ordinary Form of the Roman Rite (Novus Ordo) is the only valid form of prayer in the Latin Catholic Church why is the Extraordinary Form of the Roman Rite (Traditional Latin Mass (TLM)) being so bizarrely restircted and not abolished. If as the latest nonsense out of Rome claiming the Novus Ordo is the only true form of Catholic worship what happens not only to the personal ordinariates but to those particular churches with their own rite, e.g. Ambrosian (linked to Milan); religious orders with their own rites, e.g. Dominicans; or, even to the Eastern Catholic churches with their various rites, e.g. Armenian, Byzantine, Chaldean, etc. They also completely ignore history by claiming that unity is achieved by uniformity. This has never been the case.