I want to know what you guys think of this subject. There is the claim that homosexuality is influenced by certain parenting, like lack of bonding with a same-sex relative and such. They say gays have envy for men who have things they feel are missing in them, and it certainly does seem true for many gays I've known who've grown up that way. However, I have to make it clear that I am a homosexual. My life does seem to fit this description with feeling isolated from a masculine identity where men made me feel threatened. My dad was very mean to me growing up and I often felt pressured to conform to his view of how I should act, but didn't want to because he was such a demon, and wanted to be more like my mom. I had homosexual attractions at a young age, but I also had taboo fantasies and thoughts such as sex with relatives, including my father. Now, my abusive doctor who I have escaped and am healing from, rejected the bonding theory and said gays were born that way and have sexual fantasies of their fathers, brothers. etc. since young (he tried to encourage me to practice incest, which I said no, even if I had those thoughts). He said it was normal and that he didn't mind if parents had sex with their children. Initially, I denied it, but he found out I had these thoughts when he told his staff that I wanted to screw my father, and I said, "I didn't say it like that." and he said, "See? He does, that was a freudian slip." He did it to humiliate me in front of the staff who cooperated in abusing me. He also used it against me to say Christians who've been delivered are all liars and that I was wrong for being convinced that incest, pedophilia, and homosexuality are all sin. Repairative therapy is hard to understand. Some proscribe bonding with other same-sex friends or whatever to help 'heal' the attractions, but I don't really want to bond with someone I don't find sexually attractive and might want to have sex with. Also, I have seen websites and ex-gay 'ministries' like Your Other Brothers which seem eerily gratuitous, having semi-pornographic accounts of erotic fascinations, and encouraging borderline foreplay with other men in order to make these attractions go away, for which there has never been an accurate proscribed amount known to cure homosexuality. Also, another thing that disturbs me about these 'healing' ministries is that they have pictures of sexually attractive men in their photos that would totally float with gay men. The idea of sexual attraction and not just gender being a key player in relieving these attractions seems suspicious. Please let me know what you think, if you believe in some non-genetic basis for homosexuality, or if having these perverted thoughts is compatible with the idea that our inclinations are also not innate. This was always very difficult for me to say openly but for some reason it's not so bad now. P.S.: Tiffy, do not reply to this. I don't want to hear your opinion on anything, and I have you ignored.