Habent Papa

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  1. Lowly Layman

    Lowly Layman Well-Known Member

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    They have a pope! Pope Francis from Argentina. Seems to be a very humble man. Any thoughts?
     
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    as long as he doesn't declare a crusade on the Falkland islands :p
     
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    Firstly, thank God for good Latin grammar!

    We know two things about this Pope right now, other than the fact that he's a record-breaker as to ethnicity:

    1. The Jesuits are preening.
    2. Every Franciscan in the world is gloating...

    He seems humble, but also a little overwhelmed. I like his demeanour.


    :)
     
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    I hear that as cardinal, he gave up the bishop's palace for a small apartment, cooks his own meals, and takes public transportation. He is said to be very conservative and has a heart for the poor. Sounds like a decent start. Now if we could just get him to endorse the 39 articles. ;)
     
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    Isn't it suppose to be habent papam? I could be wrong but isn't shouldn't we conjugate the -a to -am because he (the new pope) is a direct object? Sorry for going off topic a little...
     
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    That's a good start. If only he did endorse things like the 39 articles, that would be a glorious day! :)
     
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    Yes, if only!
     
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SB9F6YoyxJA

    watched this interview of the irish singer on the news this evening.

    Interviewer: What do you think of the new pope this far?

    Sinead: I guess I wish everyone the very best, I don't know the man, I'm not going to rush to judge him but I say he has a scientifically impossible task because all religions, but certainly the catholic church is really a house built on sand and its drowning in a sea of conditional love and eh therefore it can't survive. The office of pope itself is itself an anti-Christian office , the idea that Christ needs a representative is indeed laughable and blasphemous at the same time and therefore it is a house built on sand, and we need to rescue God from religion, they become a smokescreen which actually distract people from the fact there is a holy spirit and when you study the gospels you see the Christ character came to tell us we only need to talk directly to God, we never needed religion...we don't need intermediaries



    I think the interviewer was caught off guard when she started to decry the office of pope on national television, I don't think he was expecting it. However I admire the fact she did speak her mind - I am sure the newspapers tomorrow will make a fuss of this.


    She makes some good points. I like her phrase "he has a scientifically impossible task" This new pope has chosen the name of a church reformer, and I am excited to see what reforms he will make and what he will focus on in matters of faith. However a removal of doctrinal errors or a complete vindication of the protestant reformers (who were catholic) is impossible sadly The best we can hope is a change in some of the practices of the latin church and a concentration and a focus on Christ and the biblical teachings found still in Rome. I wish him all the best in this and pray that he will reform his denomination in the right direction as far as he is able
     
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    Yes. In the accusative papa declines to papam.

    Sorry, I just can't resist a Latin grammar question. :)
     
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    Mea culpa...I only just started to learn Latin.
     
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    I didn't mean to criticize, Lowly Layman. :)

    You're doing very well for a beginner. It's a difficult language.
     
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    As Mercy said, it is a difficult language especially for us English speakers. Good luck (or rather Godspeed) as you try to learn this wonderful language! :)
     
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    Soli stolidi rident lingua Latina... :D
     
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    Ironically this descent into Latinity is all very germane to the topic of the Roman Church... :)

    As to the new bishop of Rome, I'm getting signals of a certain mediocrity. Some might call it lowliness - some humility. I don't think he expected to be elected. The College chose a very safe candidate: only 2 years younger than Benedict was when he was elected. Usually the older a Pope is, at election, the less likely the hierarchy of Rome is looking for change or reform.
     
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    The most holy, blessed, and glorious Quadrinity... the grace of the Father given by the Spirit through Mary's prayer, to help us confess Christ.

    The first thing he did when he appeared on the balcony on Wednesday was to ask for prayers to the Madonna that he will be faithful. His first three public prayers were the Lord's Prayer, the Hail Mary, and the Gloria Patri - in that order! He puts the Father, Mary, and the whole Trinity on equal grounds. I can already tell I'm going to dislike this Pope... so I won't say anymore... :p
     
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    They say it's always good to read after the first pages :p
    I guess Latin Catholics are like that regarding Mary... Kind of a strange habit...
     
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    Sola lingua bona est lingua mortua
     
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    Me understands!! :cool::rolleyes:
     
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    I don't think that Pope Francis is anything like what we have seen before. He is very different. You can almost feel God's peace in him. The Cardinals voted for change, and by choosing the name Francis, it's a pretty good indication that it is not business as usual.