What I was saying is that John the Baptist baptized under the old covenant, which is why his baptism wasn’t effective. I didn’t phrase that well what I said. I do believe the holy spirit and baptism are tied, just not fully so. Like I said, I think you can receive the gift of the Holy Spirit like the gentiles did before baptism, and have it be fully actualized after the baptism. It’s a sign and seal of the new covenant, so it seals you with the promise of the spirit you may have already received. Idk if that’s what you’re trying to say. The way stalwart was talking made it seem like you receive the Holy Spirit at the literal moment of confirmation. Which is why I said that, but very poorly worded. I think the spirit can guide you and be a gift to you before you are baptized. Like the scriptures clearly tell us. So if this same thing happens for baptism, it’s not too far off we can be forgiven without priestly absolution nowhere mentioned in scripture as a requirement for the remission of sins. Forgiving someone is an organic thing. If you ask God for forgiveness and you’re sorry, and he knows that, God will no longer be sad that you have hurt him, as he knows you want to repair the relationship. It would be unnatural to fully pronounce some sort of full forgiveness until next Sunday morning, if He isn’t upset with your trespass anymore. If you have a kid and they break a vase and then they tell you how sorry the are about it, you then tell them you forgive them, but they have to pick up what they broke.But Have you not already forgiven them in your heart before they finish picking it up, when you see them teary eyed picking up what they broke? Why can’t absolution be like that too? We are to go to church to be assured of our forgiveness and to confess before others we have sinned. But god isn’t going to hold off his forgiveness or being in communion with you until next Sunday. Or else all our “forgive us our trespasses” are merely said with Sunday in mind and not our whole lives, and a truly organic relationship with a God that has feelings just like us. And if the Holy Spirit is tied to baptism but not the time of baptism, why does absolution need to be tied to the moment of general confession and priestly absolution?