Are the Canticles of the Office ever replaced by hymns?

Discussion in 'Liturgy, and Book of Common Prayer' started by DadHocHypothesis, Oct 6, 2021.

  1. DadHocHypothesis

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    Obviously, the BCP doesn't say that you can sing a hymn instead of, e.g., the Te Deum, but because the content of a traditional service is ultimately at the priest's (and bishop's) discretion, is it something that was ever done in practice?
     
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    My experience is that, particularly at Morning Prayer, whichever is the shortest of the canticles is the one in regular use. Morning Prayer as a richly adorned service has largely gone by the wayside.

    The te deum is generally considered a piece best left to those parishes which can muster some semblance of a choir. Also, our attention deficit society tends to think te deum and benedicite omnia opera are arduously long.
     
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    We need a return to beauty and traditionalism.
     
  4. DadHocHypothesis

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    Honestly, the Benedicite is too much for even me, liturgy junkie that I am!
     
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    Charles Wheatly (died 1742) in his Rational Illustration of the Book of Common Prayer of the Church of England, gives the following note in Chapter 3, Section 13, part IV:
    So some in Wheatly's time were using metrical paraphrases of the psalms provided as alternative canticles.
     
  6. Tiffy

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    Ever heard or sung the Benedicite by Naylor? Brilliant! This is just a snippet - the whole thing is a stonking good sing! You'll need to unmute it on the right hand side of the video to hear the sound.
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    Computer speakers (though mine are decent ones, with sub) don't do it any justice. Wish I could be there.
     
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    Okay. That's significantly more magnificent than the version I ever got my organist to play.
     
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    I sang this the first time 66 years ago in a 24 strong parish choir with a 4 manual organ accompanyment. It's LONG but such joyful fun to sing especially the gloria and Amens at the end of the marathon. :laugh: By which time the congreagation have all gone home. :biglaugh:
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