Apostolic Succession question

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  1. Rexlion

    Rexlion Active Member

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    Would it be accurate to summarize the situation today as one in which:
    The Roman Church and its minor offshoots believe they alone have apostolic succession;
    The Orthodox Churches believe they alone have apostolic succession;
    The Anglican Churches believe they, plus both of the above, have apostolic succession.

    Is that about right? Or not?

    Also, are there any other groups of significant size which believe they have apostolic succession in their ordinations?
     
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    anglican74 Well-Known Member Anglican

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    We would also add that the Lutherans from the Nordic and Baltic branch of Lutheranism have apostolic succession, because they retained the episcopacy from the time of the Reformation
     
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    A few years ago the Episcopal Church (USA) and the Lutheran (ELCA) entered into and agreement regarding being in full communion. I believe part of that agreement, was that there be some Episcopal involvement in the ordination of ELCA pastors/bishops, thus bringing those persons under/in the historic apostolic succession. See : wnload.elca.org/ELCA%20Resource%20Repository/Called_To_Common_Mission.pdf?_ga=2.176274086.2053587238.1553454591-2080262901.1553454591
    There was some debate over the issued within the ELCA if I remember correctly, but it could be argued that the ELCA now has Apostolic Succession via Episcopal cross ordination.
     
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    The Catholic Church teaches that the Orthodox have maintained apostolic succession. They also teach that any church that broke off from the Catholic or Orthodox churches and retained a validly ordained bishop and use a recognized ordination rite retain apostolic succession.

    The majority of Orthodox hold that the Catholic Church has apostolic succession though many view Catholic holy orders as containing a defect which requires a second ordination if they were to convert. At one time some of the Orthodox viewed Anglicans as having apostolic succession though I believe their views have changed.
     
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    Technically all Christians have apostolic succession if they hold to the apostle’s teaching, “And they devoted themselves to the apostles’ teaching and the fellowship, to the breaking of bread and the prayers.” (Acts 2:42, Holy Bible, ESV)

    “apostolic succession" means more than a mere transmission of powers. It is succession in a Church which witnesses to the apostolic faith, in communion with the other Churches, witnesses of the same apostolic faith.“ (apostolic succession, Wikipedia).
     
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    Well, in that sense you're right, but that isn't the common meaning of the phrase nor was it the thrust of my question. ;)
     
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    Hence why I said technically.:)
     
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    Rexlion Active Member

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    Technically, you're being very technical!! :laugh:
     
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    That’smy technique. :p :D
     

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