ACNA New Archbishop

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  1. Br. Thomas

    Br. Thomas Active Member

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    I do not know if this is the correct location to pose these questions or not. Please move it, if necessary.

    I have a question for those in the ACNA. What is the general consensus of the election of the new Archbishop of the ACNA, Rt. Rev. Steve Wood ?

    Is any new or different direction expected to be taken? I am just curious.
     
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  2. Shane R

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    I'm not ACNA anymore and have occasionally been called an ACNA hater (I don't hate them, I'm just realistic and brutally honest). I will not say too much but Steve Wood lost several parishes and clergy to Continuing churches a few years ago when he decided to ordain women. I don't see how anyone can expect them to sort that issue out with Steve Wood as the Archbishop. And that's the big issue that doesn't go away.

    I told some ACNA folk they weren't going to get +Ray Sutton or any of the REC bishops or +Richard Lipka or really any of the Nigerian crew but at the same time the guys from Diocese of the Great Lakes and C4SO couldn't win either. I know everyone wants to say the election was a move of the Spirit but there was an element of politics before it even commenced. They had to choose a milquetoast candidate or the whole thing will fall apart.
     
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    ACNA here.
    I haven't heard much about him.
    Allegedly he supports female deacons, maybe even female Priests (Not that such a thing truly exists).
    If true, then this is worrisome, and even before this, please pray for the ACNA.
    Thankfully, it's an issue that should solve itself with time. The people who support such things are phasing out. The youth is much more Orthodox minded.
    It can be frustrating when the ACNA forgets why it bothered to leave the Episcopal Church in the first place.
     
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    Pub Banker Active Member Anglican

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    Supposedly Wood is pretty liberal as is his parish. I take all the social media - with text directly to my Bishop to expect a lot of calls from intending soon to be expat congregates - brouhaha with a grain of salt. Two local ACNA parishes (with distinct demographics) might give me an indication of the real tone and temperament.
     
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  5. Shane R

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    Yes. I've seen many of the REC clergy expressing very disgruntled sentiments. Some of those guys have been that way since the College of Bishops infamous statement on women's ordination came out a few years ago but they don't pack their bag and leave. But overall I don't see many reactions that are overly excited or disappointed. Those who were disappointed rather quickly seemed to take comfort in the term of the office being 5 years.

    A few people might call +Peter Robinson but I don't think there will be any significant loss of parishes. ACNA parishes are generally just not compatible with Continuing churches. Any diaspora away from ACNA I would expect to see go independent (which is a pariah for Anglicans but occasionally happens in the US).
     
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    Pub Banker Active Member Anglican

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    From my casual observations, I agree on all accounts and it doesn’t make sense for me as the REC could be/should be the most compatible branch within the continuing movement. My guess is the fear of leaving anything with a stronger “base“ for something still trying to figure out its system is intimidating. I can attest to that fact when I left a very well established Episcopal Church for a nondescript, virtually unknown parish some miles down the road. But to paraphrase Martin Luther King, isn’t ‘faith taking the first step up a flight even though you may not see the end of the staircase’? As for me, I’ve never looked back and Or doubted my decision.
     
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    Don't know a darn thing about him. I'm taking a wait and see approach. The people I've seen disgruntled are the ones who ALWAYS seem to be disgruntled, so I'm taking that with a grain of salt. That's not a potshot - it takes all kinds, and feeling secure enough to express one's dissatisfaction is a good thing.
     
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    I was not thrilled with the choice as I am against WO. As I see it, he is ok with WO but they can't be in charge of a parish. If we could institute that across the board that would be a start in rolling WO back because the anti WO diocese still would not be ordaining women. Maybe something like ths could happen. I still think on the long march in the ANCA the trend is towards the traditionalist position. My priest is anti WO and he said less and less women are asking to be priests so maybe this will work itself out on its on.
     
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    I have attended an ACNA church for a number of years and have nothing against the ACNA college of bishops or with whomever they would elect. We recently took on a new vicar (rector?) and he insisted that we must change diocese (to the Bishop director of Forward in Faith USA) before He would even consider coming This was a disgraceful power play unworthy of any Christian. For what it’s worth, I feel that the new vicar (rector) is unduly rigid in his preaching and more catholic than Rome with little tolerance or space for a milder opinion. One gets the idea that our previous bishop (of C4SO diocese) is a non Christian in league with the devil to corrupt Anglicans. This seems to me to be a very bad example, to speak of one who is supposed to be our authority we operated under for ten years or more and who remains in fellowship with the college of Bishops and I really believe we could be better led than that.

    I would take exception to destroying Bishop Steve Wood’s reputation unless he is found guilty of something truly offensive like certain other ACNA bishops who failed morally. If the continuing church do not like ACNA they can obviously leave but that would put them in the position the Pharisees found themselves in, of being right about tithing mint and cumin but sinning themselves on more substantial grounds.

    It is truly sad, almost heartbreaking how Bishop Ryle’s prophecy to the C of E (in his tract ‘What Do We Owe to the Reformation’) that they will pass away unless they reject ritualism has come to pass in our day. Find it and read it all; his third piece of advice is “do not be in a hurry to leave the Church of England just because many of her clergy are unfaithful, It is cheap and easy policy for churchmen to shirk trouble and run away in the hour of conflict…..”

    The Church of England that I was born into has splintered into dozens of fragments (but it still is and will remain my mother church) and it seems if the continuing church continues on its way, we will each be in our own denomination of one because we are unable to agree with anyone. Contrary to certain parties’ opinion, the Elizabethan English reformers were correct in labeling C of E a via media between Rome and Geneva.

    Allowing wheat and weeds to grow side by side until the end, not to root up the weeds lest any be lost, was Our Lord’s way.
     
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    That's what I both suspect and hope for. The WO issue seems to be limited to progressive hippy bommers and radicals who are allergic to Tradition. The youth are generally far more "conservative", not necessarily in a political sense, but they want things done the historical way. And a lot of the guys I've spoken to are a fair bit zealous.
    So, this issue might very well die out when the current leadership steps down. Archbishop Wood might understand that, but even if he doesn't, he'll probably be one of last influential voices for WO in the ACNA.
     
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    I am extremely skeptical of the "don't worry WO will go away" school of thought.
     
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    The times are changing drastically against WO.
    There are still some Bishops who impose WO out of spite, and to impose themselves as authorities over the church. They think they're the boss, instead of God, and they don't like the masses "telling them what to do".
    But everything I see around me, and everyone I know, opposes it. It really does look like it's on it's last leg, at least in the ACNA.
    It's a Top-Down issue. The old leadership supports it, but the young laity does not. At least, that's how it is where I am at.
     
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    This, if correct, is good news for the ACNA. But for me is the premise: popular opinion. Church dogma - of the true, Catholic Church - cannot be the result of the “viewpoint du jour”. As long as this may be the case, my perception of the ACNA church will continue to be a member of the Body as ecclestically thin.
     
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