The Gifts God gave to women, Discussion about it all with verses.

Discussion in 'Sacred Scripture' started by arik88, Jan 20, 2023.

  1. arik88

    arik88 Member

    Posts:
    99
    Likes Received:
    3
    Country:
    mexico
    Religion:
    adventist
    What are gifts G-d gave to the women.

    1. God gave love to women Genesis 2:18-24 Lord wanted men to have women as it's companion and lover the first part of their story together. Genesis 1:26-28 God told women and men to rule over the land including animals and all. Show God gave equal dominion over the land and animals give to them and both rule over it. Show God intended them to live together forever happy before the devil interfered and love them both for giving them everything beofre the fall. Deuteronomy 6:5 Love the lord he gave it to man and women.


    2.Gift the one of birth, the power of creation man does not have it only women have it. A gift only women have and authority it is never meant to have pains and suffer to give birth. But original before the devil interfered we were never meant to suffer.


    3. Hair was A gift 1 corinthias 11:15 says to cover her it is humblesness to protect the beauty.


    4. Singing the second most important gift to hail the lord and sanctify him. Zephanay 3:17, Epehesians 5:15-20 God gave it as the first thing man interacts to worship him.


    5. Wisdom God have it and in Proverbs 31 read the whole chapter 11 to 31 verses is how God wants the women to be wise and the women God wants.
     
  2. arik88

    arik88 Member

    Posts:
    99
    Likes Received:
    3
    Country:
    mexico
    Religion:
    adventist
    Found this what do you think ?

    Joel 2:28 And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions:
    Joel 2:29 And also upon the servants and upon the handmaids in those days will I pour out my spirit.

    Act 2:17 And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:
    Act 2:18 And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy:

    Micah 6:4 Miriam was one third of Israels leadership team

    Judges 4-5 Deborah was used of God as a chief prophet and judge over Israel for four decades

    Joshua 2; Matthew 1:5 God used a prostitute in Jericho Rahab and grafted her into the lineage of Christ.

    Matthew 1:5 God redeemed a foreign widow named Ruth and birthed King David through her offspring

    The book of Esther God made Esther a queen just in time to save all of Israel

    2 Chronicles 34:21-33 God used Huldah the prophetess to instruct the king

    It was Greek philosophers like Socrates, Plato, Aristotle and Hesiod that infiltrated Jewish religious tradition and culture perspective on women as the Rabbis didn't get their ideas about women from God, but from these Greek philosophers.

    Homer portrayed women as objects, war prizes, pawns and possessions, "the cause of all conflict and suffering in the world. Hammurabi discusses the legal rights of women in terms of chattel, similar to slaves. Hesiod claimed that woman was created as man's eternal curse. These Hellenized thinkers had a rather low opinion of women and because of them every major western society has marginalized women since. Scripture on the other hand, as I have shown here in a few scriptures and Paul adds many more in the NT like Priscilla (Acts 18:26); Euodia and Syntyche (Philippians 4:2-3); Junia (Romans 16:7); that women are just as important as men are in God's ministry.

    Genesis 1:28 God gave both the man and the woman to rule over His creation. Genesis 2:20-24 shows how God created woman from the rib of Adam and places her in the garden as his equal as she is called his helper as she is bone of my bone and flesh of my flesh.
     
  3. arik88

    arik88 Member

    Posts:
    99
    Likes Received:
    3
    Country:
    mexico
    Religion:
    adventist
    Here i read this and it is not my opinion but informative.

    1. Prominence of Women:

    Under the Hebrew system the position of woman was in marked contrast with her status in surrounding heathen nations. Her liberties were greater, her employments more varied and important, her social standing more respectful and commanding. The divine law given on Sinai (Exodus 20:12) required children to honor the mother equally with the father. A similar esteem was accorded her in patriarchal times.

    Sarah held a position of favor and authority in Abraham's household. Rebekah was not less influential than Isaac, and was evidently the stronger personality. The "beautiful" Rachel (Genesis 29:17) won from Jacob a love that accepted her as an equal in the companionship and counsels of family life. Many Hebrew women rose to eminence and national leadership. Miriam and Deborah were each a prophetess and a poetess. The former led bands of women in triumphant song and procession, celebrating the overthrow of enemies (Exodus 15:20); the latter, through her dominating personality and prophetic power, became the virtual judge of the nation and led armies to victory.

    Her military general, Barak, refused to advance against Sisera without her presence and commanding influence (Judges 4:8). Her ode of victory indicates the intellectual endowment and culture of her sex in that unsettled and formative era (Judges 5). No person in Israel surpassed Hannah, the mother of Samuel, in intelligence, beauty and fervor of religious devotion. Her spiritual exaltation and poetic gift found expression in one of the choicest specimens of early Hebrew lyric poetry (1 Samuel 2:1-10). Other women eminent as prophetesses were: Huldah, whose counsel was sought by high priest and king (2 Chronicles 34:22; compare 2 Kings 22:14); Noadiah (Nehemiah 6:14); Anna (Luke 2:36).

    The power to which woman could attain in Israel is illustrated in the career of the wicked, merciless, murderous, idolatrous Jezebel, self-styled prophetess (Revelation 2:20). Evidence of woman's eminence in the kingdoms of Judah and Israel is seen in the influence she exercised as queen mother (1 Kings 15:13) and queen (2 Kings 8:18); in the beautiful honor shown by King Solomon to his mother, Bath-sheba (1 Kings 2:19); in the filial devotion of the prophet Elisha (1 Kings 19:20); in the constant mention of the mother's name in the biographies of successive kings, making it evident that she was considered the important and determining factor in the life of her royal sons.

    Her teaching and authority were sufficiently eminent to find recognition in the proverbs of the nation: "the law of thy mother" (Proverbs 1:8; Proverbs 6:20) was not to be forsaken, while contempt for the same merited the curse of God (Proverbs 19:26; Proverbs 20:20; Proverbs 30:11, 17).
     
  4. arik88

    arik88 Member

    Posts:
    99
    Likes Received:
    3
    Country:
    mexico
    Religion:
    adventist
    We start The first part of it we begin with everything since Genesis to the law deuternomy, the first part consist of the high status women have " Before the law of the ten commandments " is what we call part 1. In part 1 will their be high status, equal status and low status in this we explain the events where women had God's favor over men and did the will of God and his plan.


    The powers women have God gave them and explain them in turn of events how they use them in the time before the law of moses. We start with the beggining God created men and women the first laws.



    Genesis 1:26-28 God made men and women like his image.


    Genesis 2:18-24 it is not Good for man to be alone and made women for him. And made women from the rib of men.


    God told men in this verses that both govern together the earth.


    When we recieve commands from the lord when he created men and women. God wanted women to use thier powers to rule over the earth those powers were love and hope but when man sinned and went to live in the wilderness what were more powers of God that gave women to survive there what were the moments when women defends itself in A world where the law of " An eye for an eye", from the law of " the point of the sword " you get what you want ?, and " The law of the strongest ruled " like the Babylonian made and Assyrians made in those times. What did women do to follow the plan of God and do his will ? And what was thier story.


    Their was women in those times that did do the will of God and completed the law. Who were faithul to the lord there was Sarah, Hagar, and Rebekah.


    Like Hagar who was mother of the arab nations , God bless her and protected her.


    The first verses of high status of first part.


    Gen 17:7-14 and 16:10 God send abgels to save Hagar and her son. She was awarded to have A nation like Abraham but she had no husband she recieve more than A man in those times.


    Even in those times made men and women equal in those times this an equal status.


    Like Abraham and Sarah who were part of the marriage both share the descendacy.


    Genesis 26:4 I will make your descendants as numerous as the stars in the sky, and I will give them all these lands, and through your offspring all nations of the earth will be blessed,


    Both are equal for both to talk to God.


    Gensis 18:10 Both of them share the privilage of talking to God.
     
  5. arik88

    arik88 Member

    Posts:
    99
    Likes Received:
    3
    Country:
    mexico
    Religion:
    adventist
    God talk to Abraham and told she was going to be pregnant. Sarah was treated equal by other men in those times even though Sarah did not want to and Abraham lied to save his life Abimelech put laws in those times and Sarah benn A woman of God got treated in equal status in those times by law.


    Genesis 20:14 she given something equal things for the transgression and got vindicated.


    We see in those times Sarah had recieve more and was equal to Abraham but also than Sarah A woman had higher status and that was Rebekah was given A choice


    Genesis 24:57 The lord commands Abraham to have girl for his son and if the girl does not want to go and dissolve the promise God let the girl decide and she was asked.


    God gave something to women that A man didn't and women did and that was choice in that instance men are always drones that obey God in the old testament but A women was given A choice and God told Abraham of what was going to happen and the father of Rebekah asked her if she wants to go or not ? God let the young lady to decide the future of Israel.


    This show women were powerful and had choice to decide.



    women can also decide the name of child without the husband and here are the verses. In those times women can decide without men what the name will be.
    A high status position

    Eve named Seth Gen 4:25
    Leah and Rachel named thier children chapters 29 and 30 chapters of Genesis see the whole story.
    Rachel named Genesis 39:19
    Hannah named Samuel 1 samuel chapter one


    This show that in those times only women named thier children and didn't need the approval of men.


    As the story continues we see women ahd the approval of God and had higher status and equal status in those times.
    We see Isaac prayed so Rebbeca could have A child Genesis 25:21-34


    Here women had higher status becuase man did the work for her and prayed on her behalf to obtain here promise from the lord.

    Here in this vers higher status for women here Rebekah does the historic thing of inquiring the lord


    Genesis 25:21-23 Here she talks to God few have done so.


    When Leah was goona have kids and jacob loved her less than Rachel. She prayed for the lord for children and gave 4 and God gave her special place in Jacob for her children and she thank God for it and named judah in honor of God agve Leah.


    Genesis 29:31



    The lord also listen to Leah and A women who was special was heard by Leah



    Genesis 30:17


    Also women in those time gave names to children also participated in Genealogies in sense to thier families.
    an equal status position

    Genesis 5 the whole chapter gives genealogies

    Genesis 46:5 another genealogy with men and women named as equals showing they were important too.
    Genesis 46:15 there were sons of Leah
    Gensis 46:17 Another Genealogy
    Numbers 26:33 Another Genealogy
    Numbers 26:46 Another Genealogy


    As we see in those times their was higher status and equal status women were given and did the plan of God and his will.
    Women did do good in the eyes of the lord. Did women have lower status yes in this time A women could not be queen, could not be judge in court, could not go to war as A soldier only men fought some women in other culture fought but women from Abraham's lot and Isaac and Jacob did the fighting with men. Women cannot participiate becuase of so much violence in those days and were more fragile and if women get captured were ransomed by enemy tribes.


    But still despite many thing that stopped them they did the will of God and with faith and love did his will.


    Their were women sage in those times and women could be leaders in tribes like Deborah who was prophet but won't talk about her yet some towns had women as old ladies to gudie them in town councils so women did leader in towns and cities in those times.


    We have talked about " Before era of the law of moses " The first part now we would continue the next post in the time of moses, what are the highg status, equal status, and low status of the law and it is big but had 6 months studying so know the answers.
     
  6. arik88

    arik88 Member

    Posts:
    99
    Likes Received:
    3
    Country:
    mexico
    Religion:
    adventist
    Why they have hair, gift of birth, gift of singing, and the law. Know that God gave laws to protect women and made A huge research about it took me 4 months of research. Know that very serious about it. And why women in proverbs 8-9 chapters women represent wisdom and are part of God characters. God says he is A woman, Hen mother covering his chicklings which is Israel, A mother Bear, and A mother eagle. God uses hammers, arrows, lightning, and consuming to represent himself in the bible. The high points in the law, the equal points in the law like selling property is the one thing that makes men and women equal.

    Women and men can own slaves well those are equal parts of the law of moses. And the low status parts in the law like only men can file for divorce, men can go to war women can’t, women can’t be priestess, women can’t be judges in court systems , and women can’t be queens but their have been one exception of one women been queen in Israel history in 2 kings book. Also it explains the heart why the heart to have the heart God wants for it we must have 6 things.

    The laws of genesis 1:26-28 and another one in genesis which are his commandments, the other is the law of moses written your heart, later how love is fulfillment of the law jesus says. The section will reveal what is the will of the lord and it is his commandments psalm 40:8 his laws are in your heart and so his will is his commandments and all of it the laws, prophecies, and what is his word is his commandments. So what else does he says are his commandments in order to complete the law he gave in genesis and the mosaic law ? He said fulfill them you love god and your neighbor and you will fulfill the law. Simple as that to have the heart of A child matthew 18:2-4 youw ant to enter heaven you must be like A child. What is the will 1 Thessalonians 5:18 to give thanks, tohave A heart of A child, A heart of thanks, to have the laws of genesis, and the law of moses and another 2 things more.

    And fulfill them with love and love thy father and neighbors you completed the law it is very complete what is in the episode it hase more stuff like the hard things women do to fullfil the law, the singing and praising, and more.
     
  7. CRfromQld

    CRfromQld Moderator Staff Member

    Posts:
    433
    Likes Received:
    199
    Country:
    Australia
    Religion:
    Anglican
    He gave them men!
     
    Annie Grace and arik88 like this.
  8. arik88

    arik88 Member

    Posts:
    99
    Likes Received:
    3
    Country:
    mexico
    Religion:
    adventist
    Hallelujah for that ;D. hahahaha
     
  9. arik88

    arik88 Member

    Posts:
    99
    Likes Received:
    3
    Country:
    mexico
    Religion:
    adventist
    Women in the law of the mosaic law, the higher status, equal status, and lower status
    Part 2:



    From the last part of part 1 Genesis we continue and we are in the time of the law of moses did the law of moeses favored women over men ? Yes. Womed did have the law to it's advantage and did the plan of G-d even though of the punity of the law and the harsh era of ruled by the strongets, by the tip of the sword law and for an eye for an eye women amde it to finsihed the law. And loved in those times ? Yes they did and did great features like moses mother saving his son, Joshua leading his people even after Moses left them, and more acts of fervor faith and love to G-d to do his will and survived happened.





    What where the high status in those times women recieved over men ?
    We see in those times women had power they serve G-d and did the plan of God they had higher status. equal status and low status but still serve the plan of G-d.

    The first laws that gave women higher status position than men.

    Numbers 27:1-7

    The daughters of Zelophehad told Moses it wasn't fair for the to lose their property and their house and talked to Moses for help about it. Zelophed left the tribe but still his name was improtant and the daughter didn't want their heritage to be gone. Moses went and talk to G-d and he said the daugher were right and told moses they keep the land.

    Here God sided with women and women could keep the property if the father died. They can inherit it.
    We have another issue
     
  10. arik88

    arik88 Member

    Posts:
    99
    Likes Received:
    3
    Country:
    mexico
    Religion:
    adventist
    Women in the law of the mosaic law, the higher status, equal status, and lower status
    Part 2:A


    Genesis 31:16

    Rachel and Leah talk about their property they inherit and they can have property. In A time
    when only man could own property few countries recognized women the right of property thru law. One of them is Egyptian culture and the other is Hebrew culture the law of moses gave women the right to have property thru inheritance.

    Numbers 27:8

    The law that establishes daughters can keep the house and property.

    Deuteronomy 25:5-10

    The law of the sandal if A husband dies and the brother of A wife decides not get married to her. They wife can go to the council and in front of them slap him with his sandal and she keeps the house bizzare law in those times but another law that A woman keeps the hosue and property.

    Levitcus 19:20-22

    If a man lies sexually with a woman who is a slave, assigned to another man and not yet ransomed or given her freedom, a distinction shall be made. They shall not be put to death, because she was not free;

    Here if an error and they slept together women slave and it was A mistake the male can give a ram in order for the sin to be forgiven and this way they won't get both killed and forgiven. Here in an awkard position A slave slept with A man but she belonsg to her master as property and he slept with her but she is not free he would of gotten killed in other places but the mosaic law if A man fell for A women and was not free she was owned and it was discovered the owner like saying he pass thru private property he could of been killed the man and also the girl.
    But law exist if such thing happen the owner of the slave wouldn't kill him or her if he gave the ram for their transgression. Thinsg that happen back in those times.



    Exodus 21:7-11

    When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she shall not go out as the male slaves do. A Man could sell his daughter to slavery the law allowed it but also rules existed to it.
    8 If she does not please her master, who has designated her[a] for himself, then he shall let her be redeemed. He shall have no right to sell her to a foreign people, since he has broken faith with her. 9 If he designates her for his son, he shall deal with her as with a daughter. 10 If he takes another wife to himself, he shall not diminish her food, her clothing, or her marital rights.
    And if the man who bought the servant cannot give this things to the women he has purchased.
    11 And if he does not do these three things for her, she shall go out for nothing, without payment of money.
    She could go free.
     
  11. arik88

    arik88 Member

    Posts:
    99
    Likes Received:
    3
    Country:
    mexico
    Religion:
    adventist
    Know that their is more information and property A women can have it their is a law that if a man dies and brother does not want to marry. The wife goes to council they remove his sandal and the women slaps that brother and she keeps the property. Know A women can have property and keep it. Many things the bible has influence the english in the magna carta and other things in laws in western culture.

    And also God originally is not man or women he says he is consuming fire originally when created the universe but bear, hammer, arrows, thunder as his voice, coming as Jesus as A man, being A women who gave birth, and mother hen are things that represent him and his character for he is a mysterious God. And he only lets us know few things about all of him because he is powerful and his ways are mysterious.

    Their many more things like the hardships women face in the bible and thanks to their wise decisions like rebekah treachery and things they help men to complete the law and the heart things throughout history. Women have sacrificied everything if it weren’t for women like Esther to save her people, women like Deoborah even though she killed, and women like thedaughter in law of Judah who lost his sons but her daughter in law trick her to sleep with him. And save the bloodline of Judah for he was old. The kingdoms of Isreal would of not existed and the state of Israel would of not of existed. Thanks to those brave women even though it brings debate and contradiction of thier actions remember Abraham lied, Jacob lied and tricked Laban and other prophets did the same in order to accomplish the will of God.

    We are no one to judge he will judge it all but everything in life wether bad or good will work in the end to make great things like Israel and the path for Israel to teach and give the word of God to all. Women have important part in the will of God and his plan. Read about the plan of God that the will is to make his plan A reality.
     
  12. arik88

    arik88 Member

    Posts:
    99
    Likes Received:
    3
    Country:
    mexico
    Religion:
    adventist
    Women in the mosaic law
    Part 3:
    Still the higher status of the law.

    Exodus 21:2-3
    2 When you buy a Hebrew slave,[a] he shall serve six years, and in the seventh he shall go out free, for nothing. 3 If he comes in single, he shall go out single; if he comes in married, then his wife shall go out with him.
    A daughter that is sold to slavery no matter what by law is set free she will work six years and in the seventh year be free.

    Leviticus 15:19

    19 “When a woman has a discharge, and the discharge in her body is blood, she shall be in her menstrual impurity for seven days, and whoever touches her shall be unclean until the evening.

    A women had A period she was protected and was not allowed for anyone to touch respecting her space

    Leviticus 19:29

    A law that protect daughter and said to fathers not to let daughters end in prostituing themselves.

    29 “Do not profane your daughter by making her a prostitute, lest the land fall into prostitution and the land become full of depravity.


    Numbers 5:12-28

    The Sotah law or law of the river if A woman is accused of infidelity she was a given A choice to prove her innnocence she would swim up the river and thru the currents survive and if she passed she was proven innocent. For some the law was harsh but A law was given so women could have A choice it was better other kingdoms or culture would of juts of stone her or cut her head or hanged her. Without given her any chance of proving her innocence. No, other culture dont' have laws like those and women would of being juts killed with out giving her A chance.

    13 if a man lies with her sexually, and it is hidden from the eyes of her husband, and she is undetected though she has defiled herself, and there is no witness against her, since she was not taken in the act,

    28 But if the woman has not defiled herself and is clean, then she shall be free and shall conceive children.

    Leviticus 22:12-13

    A women that is daughter of A priest if she is divorced or widow she could return to her father and live with him.

    12 If a priest's daughter marries a layman, she shall not eat of the contribution of the holy things.

    Numbers 30:3

    A women makes vows and in those times A vow that they would keep a conduct or work as a promise was taken very serious. They were sacred and

    special thing given to them by the law.

    Numbers 30:10-14

    A women will make A vow and later would be to hard or have promblems completing them the husband can dissolved them and she no longer keeps them helping them women. A law to make vows was made and the law to dissolve them was made also.

    Deuteronomy 22:13-18

    If girl was accused of not being virgin A law made and the parents can defend her. The bring A blanket proving no blood was ever there and thus the man who accused gets punished. Saving the girl life.

    Deuteronomy 22:25-27

    A man rapes A women he will be put to death ! But the women is saved.

    26 And you are not to do anything to the girl; there is no sin in the girl worthy of death, for just as a man rises against his neighbor and murders him, [c]so is this case.
     
  13. arik88

    arik88 Member

    Posts:
    99
    Likes Received:
    3
    Country:
    mexico
    Religion:
    adventist
    Women in the mosaic law
    Part 3:A
    Still the higher status of the law.



    Deuteronomy 24:5

    A man who is married and ther is A war G-d made A law protects that couple and the man does not go to war and stayw ith his wife A whole year and make her wife happy.

    5 “When a man takes a new wife, he is not to go out with the army, nor be assigned any duty; he shall be free at home for one year and shall make his wife whom he has taken happy.

    Deuteronomy 10:17-22

    God gives special protection and law protecting and justice giving to them.

    18 He executes justice for the orphan and the widow, and shows His love for the stranger by giving him food and clothing.

    Deuteronomy 14:28-29

    A law that says A tithe or tenth of your winnings give to the widows of your town.

    9 And the Levite, because he has no portion or inheritance among you, and the stranger, the [b]orphan, and the widow who are in your [c]town, shall

    come and eat and be satisfied, in order that the Lord your God may bless you in all the work of your hand which you do.

    Deuteronomy 16:10-11

    Another law of your offering also to give to widows.

    11 and you shall rejoice before the Lord your God, you, your son and your daughter, and your male and female slaves, and the Levite who is in your [c]town, and the stranger, the [d]orphan, and the widow who are in your midst, at the place where the Lord your God chooses to establish His name.

    Deuteronomy 24:17-18

    Do not pervert the justice of A widow.

    17 “You shall not pervert the justice [a]due a stranger or [b]an orphan, nor seize a widow’s garment as a [c]pledge.

    Genesis 38:26

    A woman was written in the bible to be more righteous than A man that was Judah so was given A place in bible history when women where not given imprtance in A time that was harsh.

    26 And Judah recognized them, and said, “She is more righteous than I, since I did not give her to my son Shelah.” And he did not [a]have relations with her again


    This are the high status of women and show they had hihger prefrence than man and G-d sided with them, they ahd use of the laws and the mosaic law had laws that were meant for them. This part of the women in the bible the part 1 talks about before the law in midst of Abraham and Sarah had things G-d gave to them. And Part 2 and 3 Talk about the law but in the time of Moses and the mosaic law. The high status of the law we will now see the Equal status and alter the low status of the law.
     
  14. arik88

    arik88 Member

    Posts:
    99
    Likes Received:
    3
    Country:
    mexico
    Religion:
    adventist
    Some are the same like singing and love but birth and hair and one other that is only women's is what God gave them remember in the bible God uses images like arrows, hammers, swords masculie things God gave men and says are aprt of his character and doing. The lord says he is a mighty host of armies. He uses men as a symbol of himself and part of his character. Do we men have gifts yes but do women have gifts yes more than 4 or 5 times in the bible says he is A woman, he uses woman as representation of his character and secret ways he is so also he uses the chicken tells Israel how he wanted them under his wings, the bible says God is bear mother who takes care of his childs, A mother eagle in psalms watchign over her nest, and chicken which cover her hatchlingd God uses feminine side to represent him and reveal his character. Is women part of God has God in the bible shown he is A women ? yes in proverbs 8 thru 9 chapter Solomon writes on how God shows her wisdom as A woman and shows, he is A women who scream when giving birth, A women who worries for his children, A women who found A coin in the new testament as a Parable Solomon understood this way of God.

    https://youtu.be/k8P-x34iYRE
     
  15. arik88

    arik88 Member

    Posts:
    99
    Likes Received:
    3
    Country:
    mexico
    Religion:
    adventist
    For remember God is niether man or female he is above all this he just gives us A small part of him the most ancient way God says he is and represents him is that he is not human or man or women but consuming Fire !!! Deuteronomy 4:24 that is what he says in the beggining God gave Adam A part of him and gave Women A part of him aswell. He loves so much women that God gave them reasoning and man aswell to know he is thier creator but know that besides man havings swords, hamemrs, and tools men use. Women have singing, birth, and love unique to them that man do not have. Their is A reason for why God gave women hair, and gave them the ability only God can do that is gave life !!! like he does when women give birth. Even though unspoken about how God gives birth and demostrate part of him in women. Know those are the things God gave women and belongs to them.
     
  16. CRfromQld

    CRfromQld Moderator Staff Member

    Posts:
    433
    Likes Received:
    199
    Country:
    Australia
    Religion:
    Anglican
    I think that some people look at how women in certain cultures today and in recent history are oppressed and assume that those sorts of restrictions applied to women in the OT. While it might not live up to today's standards the Mosaic Law provided protection for the rights of women that was very high for that time, perhaps the highest in the ancient near east. Also remember that most men had few civil rights as we know them today.

    But go to Proverbs

    The Good Wife
    10 It is hard to find an excellent wife.
    She is worth more than rubies.
    11 Her husband trusts her completely.
    With her, he has everything he needs.
    ...
    16 She looks at a field and buys it.
    With money she has earned, she plants a vineyard.
    ...
    24 She makes linen clothes and sells them.
    She provides belts to the merchants.

    This shows that around 950 BC women could own property and have their own business.
     
    arik88 likes this.
  17. CRfromQld

    CRfromQld Moderator Staff Member

    Posts:
    433
    Likes Received:
    199
    Country:
    Australia
    Religion:
    Anglican
    This refers to production or earnings, not gambling winnings, and it went to not just the widows but also to the Levites, fatherless, and foreigners. (mentioned in the next line but it's a bit disconnected)
     
  18. arik88

    arik88 Member

    Posts:
    99
    Likes Received:
    3
    Country:
    mexico
    Religion:
    adventist
    This to prove that women did have something agaisnt a popular belief that women didn't have anything or were not a part of God's work and didn't get anything at all. Women don't know God gave them laws and chose them to lead Israel at times. If there where in those times other countries that had laws similar to in the mosaic law the egyptians were one that women had law and could hold property. Few things that they could own not like popular belief that hollywood portraits women didn't have any part or women don't know the history of the bible oes have women who did God's plan.
     
  19. arik88

    arik88 Member

    Posts:
    99
    Likes Received:
    3
    Country:
    mexico
    Religion:
    adventist
    Women in the mosaic law.
    Part 4:

    Now that we saw what the higher status we will see the equal status and know that women were equal in front of the law.

    Exodus 20:10

    Women keep the sabbath.

    10 but the seventh day is a Sabbath of the Lord your God; on it you shall not do any work, you, or your son, or your daughter, your male slave or your female slave, or your cattle, or your [a]resident who stays with you.

    Exodus 35:22

    Women can give offering to the lord the same as men.

    22 Then all [a]whose hearts moved them, both men and women, came and brought brooches and earrings and signet rings and bracelets, all articles of gold; so did everyone who [c]presented an offering of gold to the Lord.

    Exodus 35:22

    Women can give freewill offering like men.

    29 The [a]Israelites, all the men and women, whose heart moved them to bring material for all the work, which the Lord had commanded through Moses to be done, brought a [c]voluntary offering to the Lord.

    Exodus 38:3-8

    Women worked outside at the tabernacle and helped and did services outside the doors.

    8 Moreover, he made the basin of bronze with its base of bronze, [a]from the mirrors of the serving women who served at the doorway of the tent of meeting.

    Leviticus 10:14

    Daughters could eat of the sacrifice meat preist did to the lord and offered to him just like the sons giving equal treatment.

    14 The breast of the wave offering, however, and the thigh of the offering you may eat in a clean place, you and your sons and your daughters with you; for they have been given as your allotted portion and your sons’ allotted portion from the sacrifices of the peace offerings of the sons of Israel.
     
  20. arik88

    arik88 Member

    Posts:
    99
    Likes Received:
    3
    Country:
    mexico
    Religion:
    adventist
    Women in the mosaic law.
    Part 4:A

    Deuteronomy 12:12-18

    women could eat of the offering and were equal as sons here also.

    18 But you shall eat them before the Lord your God in the place which the Lord your God will choose, you and your son and daughter, and your male and female slaves, and the Levite who is within your gates; and you shall rejoice before the Lord your God in all [d]your undertakings.

    Deuteronomy 16:11-14

    women could eat of the offering and were equal as sons here also.

    14 and you shall rejoice in your feast, you, your son and your daughter, and your male and female slaves, and the Levite, the stranger, the [f]orphan, and the widow who are in your [g]towns.


    Deuteronomy 29:9

    Women were present when giving the command by God that they are part of the covenant with G-d with men also.

    9 So you will keep the words of this covenant and do them, in order that you may be successful in everything that you do.

    Exodus 21:26-31

    A women slaved just like men if hurted will be let freed and owner compensated if damage.

    27 And if he knocks out a tooth of his male or female slave, he shall let [c]the slave go free on account of the tooth.


    Deuteronomy 15:12

    Women and men can be freed equally in the 7th year.

    12 “If your fellow countryman, a Hebrew man or woman, is sold to you, then he shall serve you for six years, but in the seventh year you shall set him [a]free.

    Exodus 21:2-4

    You buy A hebrew women or men another place that say after the sixth year you are free in the seventh year.

    2 “If you buy a Hebrew slave, he shall serve for six years; but on the seventh he shall leave as a free man without a payment to you. 3 If he comes [a]alone, he shall leave alone; if he is the husband of a wife, then his wife shall leave with him. 4 If his master gives him a wife, and she bears him sons or daughters, the wife and her children shall belong to her master, and he shall leave [c]alone.

    This are equal law in the next part we will dive in more becasue the law in slavery and in temple works men and women were given equal treatment.
    You buy A hebrew women or men another place that say after the sixth year you are free in the seventh year.