Is Jesus Christ Almighty God?

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  1. ZachT

    ZachT Well-Known Member

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    That's Partialism Patrick!

    Sorry, couldn't help myself. This was a great response.
     
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    I suspect you may be confounding the substance and confusing the persons. Trinitarian theology is foundational for Nicene Christians, and Anglicans are Nicene Cristians. You will be held if you reflect on Article 1.
     
  3. Oseas

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    Brother, you need to be more vigilant. Don't you know? Scriptures explain Scriptures. GOD the Father, my Father, -the Word- is Spirit. Your advice is not good, you are tempting me to stray from the Word of GOD and be dragged along by a strange "woman" - the word of men and not the Word of GOD. I work with the Word of GOD, the Word is GOD, don't you understand yet, brother?

    If you do not believe what GOD reveals and even He explains what He meant through the Word of Him, you run the risk of being deceived and lost forever following what is not of GOD, but of men (take a look of an example in Matthew 16:v.22-23) and their demonic doctrines -2Corinthians 11:v.13-15 and 1John 4:v.1, among others. Take care and get ready, the days are perilous, but the Word is GOD and protects them which are of the LORD.

    Psalm 97:v.11-12
    11 Light is sown for the righteous, and gladness for the upright in heart.
    12 Rejoice in the Lord, ye righteous; and give thanks at the remembrance of his holiness.
    Amen

    I work with the Word of GOD. What matters and prevails is the Word of GOD. What does the Word of GOD say?

    Not if; Really the Word is GOD. The Word-GOD-is Spirit, and was made flesh- How? Read Luke 1:v.26-35. The Word is GOD and was made flesh as the own Word said by the prophets, mainly Isaiah, and according the written Word reveraled to the prophets was born JESUS, NAME that the Word chose for He Himself when He was made flesh, become flesh, don't you know of this? JESUS is GOD, i.e. the Word-GOD-made flesh. JESUS is the EXPRRESS(the written)IMAGE of GOD, and JESUS is also the NAME of GOD. And what does the Word of GOD say? What matters and prevails is the Word of GOD,understand? GOD-as the Word- said: I JESUS am the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner. Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other NAME under heaven (heaven is not sky) given among men, whereby we must be saved.

    The Word-GOD-is Omniscient, Ominipresent and Ominipotent, He is from everlasting to everlasting, and once made flesh becomes the beginning and the ending, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty-JESUS-.

    Not if; Both are the Word; i.e. Spirit, and Spirit made flesh.
    Both are GOD, the Spirit, and Spirit made flesh.
    Both are One - the Spirit and Spirit made flesh.

    John 1:v.2 - The same -the Word-GOD's Spirit, was in the beginning - was in JESUS -with GOD-i.e. JESUS in the bosom of GOD-the Word- Both are One -

    First is the Word, the Word is from everlasting to everlasting, the Word has nothing beginning neither ending, and the Word is GOD, without the Word, JESUS, wouldn't have been born. The Word is FIRST, GOD the Father, after GOD Son, the Word made flesh, evidently.
     
  4. Oseas

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    Brother, you need to be more vigilant. You were deceived by the devilish theory of above, that's a satanic trap. Unfortunately, you are believing in that theory of the Devil, not from the Holy Spirit, who is the third among the three.

    The TETRAGRAMMATON has nothing to do with the NAME of the Word-GOD. It's only can be the satanic NAME of the Devil, father of the Jews as JESUS said-John 8:v.44-45-. THERE ARE SEVERAL NAMES INVENTED AND NAMED BY THE DEVIL FOR THE TRUE GOD, that's a mokery. The current fictitious, false, and satanic NAMES named by the Devil to the true GOD, names created by the Jews according their father, not by the Spirit of GOD, the Holy Spirit, and the ficticious names are:
    Jehovah,
    Yahweh,
    HaShem,
    Adonai,
    Yehovah,
    Elohim,
    all fictitious names of a pseudo-god named by esoteric, kabbalistic and SPIRITIST Jews more to invoke him, spirit of the Devil, than to worship him, in fact a disguised SPIRITISM preached by the demonic and esoteric, and kabbalistic, and spiritist Judaism.

    Take a look in the follow links:
    https://purebibleforum.com/index.ph...16-rabbis-speak-out-thomas-ross-and-more.572/ - from post 9 to 20,

    and https://purebibleforum.com/index.php?threads/lxx-name-of-god.2524/

    and https://purebibleforum.com/index.php?threads/hebrew-vowels.2462/

    GOD blesses
     
  5. Oseas

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    Romans 9:v.30 33
    30 What shall we say then? That the Gentiles, which followed not after righteousness, have attained to righteousness, even the righteousness which is of faith.

    31 But Israel, which followed after the law of righteousness, hath not attained to the law of righteousness.

    32 Wherefore? Because they sought it not by faith, but as it were by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumblingstone;

    33 As it is written, Behold, I lay in Sion a stumblingstone and rock of offence: and whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.

    According to my earnest expectation and my hope, that in nothing I can be ashamed, but that with all boldness, as always, so now also Christ may be magnified in my body, whether it be by life, or by death.

    1Pedro 4:v.17-18
    17 For the time is come that Judgment must begin at the house of GOD and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of GOD?

    18 And if the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear?
     
  6. Rexlion

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    You might be "working with the word of God" but you aren't "rightly dividing the word of truth."
     
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    If this is what you believe, Oseas, then you do not believe the Bible. The Bible tells us that these are true names and descriptors by which our Creator may be identified. (For example: Isaiah 42:8.)

    Now that you have revealed how widely your beliefs diverge from Biblical Christianity, I feel compelled to place you on "ignore" status. I will no longer see your outlandish posts.
     
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    Sheer ignorance coupled with vile antisemitic drivel. That’s the only response this nonsense merits.
     
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    Isn't it ANNOYING when one encounters a biblical 'expert' who thinks everyone who disagrees with their thoughts on the meaning of scripture, is an agent of Satan and that they are 'all-knowingly' and unfailingly correct, not just "seeing through a glass darkly" like the rest of us poor ignorant sinners. :laugh: God save us from false teachers. We don't have to listen or read though.
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    I must say, the irregular capitalisation you have employed makes the post more difficult to comprehend. It reminds me of the margin notes on a preacher's sermon 'argument weak here - speak more loudly.'

    Nonetheless we do find in the canonical scriptures a number of names used to describe God, and the origins of these names are found in the Hebrew Scriptures and these names represent various aspects of the tradition of faith in which we too stand, and in no sense is it even vaguely honest to suggest that they are different Gods, for as you know God is One.

    The Tetragrammaton is a specific name that enters the story in Exodus 3.

    The Divine Name Revealed
    But Moses said to God, ‘If I come to the Israelites and say to them, “The God of your ancestors has sent me to you”, and they ask me, “What is his name?” what shall I say to them?’ God said to Moses, ‘I am who I am.’ He said further, ‘Thus you shall say to the Israelites, “I am has sent me to you.” ’ God also said to Moses, ‘Thus you shall say to the Israelites, “The Lord, the God of your ancestors, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, has sent me to you”:
    This is my name for ever, and this my title for all generations.​
    Exodus 3:13-15

    Whilst the English reads here 'I am who I am,' it is transliterated in English as YHWH which of course is effectively impossible to say, and that may well be part of the story, for it alludes to the holiness of God. The question of tense here is also more complex, as it could easily be understood as I was who I will be, or even I is who I is. In that sense, it is drilling into the essence of existence, in a way that drives a whole dimension further than Descartes got us with Cogito Ergo Sum.

    Your argument that the names used in Holy Writ are fictitious names of a pseudo-god, to invoke a demonic spirit of some sort, is clearly at odds with the plain reading of the canon, and significantly at odds with the tradition dating back the Apostolic Church, and my poor reason can make no sense of it at all.

    In short, the case you put here is well outside the norms of traditional Anglicanism.
     
  11. Oseas

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    Regardings myself and GOD the Father, and JESUS, my Lord, what matters and prevails is the Word of GOD, not human opinion.
     
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    The fictitious GOD's names invented by the spirit of Devil, not by the Holy Spirit, as were listed in the post #84 have nothing to do with Isaiah 42:v.8- the Word of GOD, but with the esoteric, and kabbalistic, and SPIRITIST and main religion of the Jews, the esoteric, and kabbalistic, and SPIRITIST Judaism.

    It is not the Word of GOD that diverge from the TRUE Biblical Christianity, in fact it is the false Biblical Christianity that diverge from the Word of GOD. The Word is GOD.
     
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    What matters and prevails is the Word of GOD, not human opinions. The Word is GOD, understand?
     
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    John 3:v.31-36
    31 He that cometh from above is above all: he that is of the earth is earthly, and speaketh of the earth: he that cometh from heaven is above all.

    32 And what he hath seen and heard, that he testifieth; and no man receiveth his testimony.

    33 He that hath received his testimony hath set to his seal that God is true.

    34 For he whom God hath sent speaketh the words of God: for God giveth not the Spirit by measure unto him.

    35 The Father loveth the Son, and hath given all things into his hand.

    36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.
     
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    JESUS said to the Father: John 17:v.6 - 6 I have manifested thy NAME unto the men which thou gavest me out of the world: thine they were, and thou gavest them me; and they have kept thy word.

    Question: What is the NAME of GOD manifested by JESUS to the men?
     
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    That's it, a line has been crossed. This is not Jesus Christ speaking, not the voice of my Master, and I know the voice of the accuser when I hear it, even when cleverly wrapped up in the deceptive disguise of a quote from the 'good book'. Satan is 'a persistent biblical expert' whose proxy servant false accusations I dismiss out of hand.
    :jedi:

    Using the Bible to do this with reveals to others intents of the heart.
    :duel:

    The legitimate use of scriprure is as a scalpel, not a gladius. To heal not to harm.
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    John 17.6
    ‘I have made your name known to those whom you gave me from the world.
    They were yours, and you gave them to me, and they have kept your word.​

    https://biblehub.com/greek/3686.htm

    3686 ónomaname; (figuratively) the manifestation or revelation of someone's character, i.e. as distinguishing them from all others. Thus "praying in the name of Christ" means to pray as directed (authorized) by Him, bringing revelation that flows out of being in His presence. "Praying in Jesus' name" therefore is not a "religious formula" just to end prayers (or get what we want)!

    ["According to Hebrew notions, a name is inseparable from the person to whom it belongs, i.e. it is something of his essence. Therefore, in the case of the God, it is specially sacred" (Souter).]
     
  18. Oseas

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    I only quoted the Scriptures, but your spirit twisted them and interpreted them to the evil side, so that they would not enter your heart and you would gladly receive the Word of God. The Word is GOD, the invisible GOD. Great mystery.
     
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    What matters and prevails is the Word of GOD. The Word is GOD.
    The verse you quoted is about the prayer of JESUS to the Father, saying to the Father: I have manifested thy NAME unto the men which thou gavest me out of the world:... WhIch NAME? Is it any of the names mentioned below?
    Jehovah,
    Yahweh,
    HaShem,
    Adonai,
    Yehovah,
    Elohim,
    YHWH
    No, it's not. Why they are not the name of GOD? Because they are ficticious names created by the Devil, a satanic mokery of the Person of GOD, named by esoteric, and kabbalistic and SPIRITIST Jews. Those seven names are the names of their father-John 8:v.44- the Old serpent, called the Devil and Satan, the man of sin, son of perdition, who will oppose and exalt himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God will sit in the temple of God -in JERUSALEM- , shewing himself that he is God. Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders. He is the God of the Jews and will ruler Israel for a little time, until be cast down into the bottomless pit.

    Be careful or then get ready, we are living in perilous time and the apostasy grew excessively.
     
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    "I only quoted the scriptures" is only true as a technicality, not in reality. Your quote was intended to defend your version of the truth of scripture, as you see it, and attack my understanding of the scriptures by inferring I am in opposition to The Lord Jesus Christ, my Master. It was a riposte. If such motivation cannot be comprehended or admitted to then it was unconsciously and unwillingly performed. That would indicate something else was in control. I hereby rebuke it if it was.
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