Roman Catholic Archbishop Müller: Catholics & Protestants are united in the same visible Church

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    Roman Catholic Archbishop Müller: Catholics & Protestants are united in the same visible Church

    During a ceremony at the Catholic Academy of Bavaria on October 11, 2011, Bishop Gerhard Ludwig Müller, later chosen by Benedict XVI to be Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, presented an ecumenical award to Lutheran bishop Johannes Friedrich. [...]

    Below we present to our readers a photocopy of the first page of the 9-page-text of Müller's speech in German published by the Catholic Academy of Bavaria, and then the two more important excerpts from his speech. After the photocopies of these excerpts are our translations to English in blue. The full original document can be found here.

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    * “With much clarity, the paradigm shift away from polemics and controversies constitutes the present and the future of ecumenism. Its core is this: We determine our relationship to each other no longer with regard to the differences that actually exist in the doctrine, life and constitution of the Church, but rather on the common foundation upon which we stand – ‘For no one can lay any foundation other than the one already laid, which is Jesus Christ … Know you not that you yourselves are God’s temple and that God’s Spirit dwells in your midst?’ (1 Cor 3:11, 16). … ”

    * “Baptism is the fundamental sign that we are sacramentally united in Christ, and that presents us as the one visible Church before the world. Thus, we as Catholic and Protestant Christians, are already united even in what we call the visible Church. Strictly speaking, there are not several Churches, one beside the other, but rather these are separations and divisions within the one people and one house of God. …”


    The original article can be found here:
    http://www.traditioninaction.org/ProgressivistDoc/A_159_Muller-Prot.html
     
  2. highchurchman

    highchurchman Well-Known Member Anglican

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    Baptism made us Catholics it is our birthright, we hold to the faith of the early church. What this man is doing, or suggesting , it seems to me, is to use non Romanists to bolster up a Catholic Sect, the Holy Roman Church! To become a Catholic in full, we should endevour to work for the dissemination of Christ's Revelation, this is our duty not to shoulder the erroneus doctrines of schismatics.

    The point about Rome is that it is in error, at least according to S.Paul, as I understand him. We should be united on the faith. No Additions and No Diminution!
     
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    I find this difficult to believe
     
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    Then how about the Pope give up his pretensions to universal jurisdiction, infallibility, and false doctrines that divide the Catholic Church. We'd all (well, maybe not all) be able to get along splendidly, at least in the West. It certainly would be a great witness to the Nations.
     
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    What? Why & How?
     
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    Sorry I was responding to the initial post, not yours.