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  1. Aidan

    Aidan Well-Known Member

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    The Vatican have issued a €1 stamp to commemorate the reformation. It depicts Christ crucified with Luther and Melancthon at the foot of the cross instead of Our Lady and St James
     
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    anglican74 Well-Known Member Anglican

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    That's significant
     
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    Lowly Layman Well-Known Member Anglican

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    semper reformanda I suppose
     
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    Unfortunate.
     
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    Lowly Layman Well-Known Member Anglican

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    In what way?
     
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    A sign of the times and the Bergoglio pontificate. While some Anglicans want to be more Catholic,more evidence to suggest that Francis wants the Church to be less Catholic.
     
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    anglican74 Well-Known Member Anglican

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    I mean wouldn't you say that if the Roman Church had listened to Luther it would have not traveled the road it did? A road which it itself later abandoned? Catholics sometimes act like Trent was another Pentecost.. they forget that there was a Church before Trent! And now there is a Church that has moved past Trent.. it's one of the Anglican arguments against Infalliblity, but anyway..


    Look the modern Roman church has adopted the view of Justification for which it tried to get Luther burned and excommunicated. This has happened in 1999, long before anything Pope Francis has done...

    It seems to me that basically Luther was right on his main points, and when you move past biases and prejudices the modern church has basically accepted that.
     
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    As much as I'd love to see healing between the Roman and Protestant churches, you must understand that traditional Roman catholics get agitated whenever they hear of someone praising the Pope for making pro-protestant statements that are not 'ex cathedra'. Orthodox Jews feel the same whenever they hear of Christians doing significant life-changing work and charity among the non-believing Jews, becoming suspicious and getting very aggressive, jealous and hateful. It's understandable, I personally don't like it when a person of authority that I respect in the Protestant churches tries to be ecumenical in a way that goes against scripture in a serious manner. It's happening alot these days. So if it's not what they're supposed to be teaching, then we can't praise them for being a Catechism/Ex Cathedra catholic, but if we believe what we teach is in fact scriptural and true, we can at least praise them for being a BIBLICAL catholic, and yes, I understand how painful and infuriating it is to say this before our Roman or Orthodox friends.
     
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    Trent and Luther were both disasters in their own ways.
     
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    anglican74 Well-Known Member Anglican

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    Well the Eastern Churches are not immune from this, the 2nd Council of Nicea was a disaster too.. the orthodox were suppressed. I'm so glad the Western Church was not present to sign it, and was opposed it...

    The Church has taken many winding roads through the Millenia.
     

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