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  1. Thomas1611

    Thomas1611 New Member

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    I'm new to the Anglican church, I've join this forums to know about the doctrines held by the church.

    I've failed to find an answer for this, what doctrine does the church hold regarding the Eucharist?
    I'm pretty sure it's not Transubstantiation, I hope I'll learn more from this forums:crosssign2:, God bless.
     
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    Botolph Well-Known Member

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    Welcome to Anglican Forums. One fairly sure place to start with this topic is the Thirty Nine Articles. I have pasted below the five that are in some sense directly related to this question.

    There is a level of variance amongst Anglicans from very close to Transubstantiation to very close to a Receptionist view. Some will suggest that the Articles are the tramtacks setting the boundaries. In some ways the Anglican position is a bit like the Eastern position, prepared to allow the ineffable, the mystery simply taking Christ at his word without the need to over explain it.

    Article 28 rules out Transubstantiation, and Article 29 rules out out a pure Receptionist view. The most common description for Anglicans is to speak of the Real Presence and to accept the accounts in the Gospels, and in the Pauline material, without over intellectualizing it.

    The words of John Donne - and often attributed to Elizabeth 1 are often used to express this, though a little research may give you to believe that we use those words with a slightly different intent to haw they were originally intended.

    His was the word that spake it
    And what his word doth make it
    I do believe and take it

    This is probably not the definitive answer you were looking for, however I hope I have been fair to Anglicans across the spectrum, and given you an honest view of a matter that whatever our position is we take seriously.

    Article XXV
    Of the Sacraments
    Sacraments ordained of Christ be not only badges or tokens of Christian men’s profession, but rather they be certain sure witnesses, and effectual signs of grace, and God’s good will towards us, by the which he doth work invisibly in us, and doth not only quicken, but also strengthen and confirm our Faith in him.

    There are two Sacraments ordained of Christ our Lord in the Gospel, that is to say, Baptism, and the Supper of the Lord.

    Those five commonly called Sacraments, that is to say, Confirmation, Penance, Orders, Matrimony, and extreme Unction, are not to be counted for Sacraments of the Gospel, being such as have grown partly of the corrupt following of the Apostles, partly are states of life allowed in the Scriptures; but yet have not like nature of Sacraments with Baptism, and the Lord’s Supper, for that they have not any visible sign or ceremony ordained of God.​

    The Sacraments were not ordained of Christ to be gazed upon, or to be carried about, but that we should duly use them. And in such only as worthily receive the same have they a wholesome effect or operation: but they that receive them unworthily purchase to themselves damnation, as Saint Paul saith.


    Article XXVIII
    Of the Lord’s Supper
    The Supper of the Lord is not only a sign of the love that Christians ought to have among themselves one to another; but rather it is a Sacrament of our Redemption by Christ’s death: insomuch that to such as rightly, worthily, and with faith, receive the same, the Bread which we break is a partaking of the Body of Christ; and likewise the Cup of Blessing is a partaking of the Blood of Christ.

    Transubstantiation (or the change of the substance of Bread and Wine) in the Supper of the Lord, cannot be proved by holy Writ; but is repugnant to the plain words of Scripture, overthroweth the nature of a Sacrament, and hath given occasion to many superstitions.

    The Body of Christ is given, taken, and eaten, in the Supper, only after an heavenly and spiritual manner. And the mean whereby the Body of Christ is received and eaten in the Supper is Faith.

    The Sacrament of the Lord’s Supper was not by Christ’s ordinance reserved, carried about, lifted up, or worshipped.

    Article XXIX
    Of the Wicked which do not eat the Body of Christ in the use of the Lord’s Supper
    The Wicked, and such as be void of a lively faith, although they do carnally and visibly press with their teeth (as Saint Augustine saith) the Sacrament of the Body and Blood of Christ, yet in no wise are they partakers of Christ: but rather, to their condemnation, do eat and drink the sign or Sacrament of so great a thing.

    Article XXX
    Of both kinds
    The Cup of the Lord is not to be denied to the Lay-people; for both the parts of the Lord’s Sacrament, by Christ’s ordinance and commandment, ought to be ministered to all Christian men alike.

    Article XXXI
    Of the one Oblation of Christ finished upon the Cross
    The Offering of Christ once made is that perfect redemption, propitiation, and satisfaction, for all the sins of the whole world, both original and actual; and there is none other satisfaction for sin, but that alone. Wherefore the sacrifices of Masses, in the which it was commonly said, that the Priest did offer Christ for the quick and the dead, to have remission of pain or guilt, were blasphemous fables, and dangerous deceits.​
     
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    That was an extremely helpful post, Thank you, God bless. :crosssign2:
     
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    Welcome to the Anglican Church. You'll find a lad here who believes in transubstantiation, and a lad who don't. There is this entire spectrum within Anglicanism. Personally, I believe, and I receive sacraments from the Anglican Church in North America.

    Everyone here is lovely and helpful. Trust me, that any opinion you have, if you express it, will be shared and challenged. As it should be. Faith is a journey and we are all on it, yet we all believe in the one good Lord Jesus Christ, our saviour and redeemer.
     
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