Discussion in 'Pastoral Resources' started by Anna Scott, Apr 9, 2012.
No, I do not.
When you pray the RC rosary you are not "praying to Mary". You are asking her for her prayers, just like many ask for others to pray for them. On a side note I pray the rosary using the "Jesus Prayer". There is also a Protestant Hail Mary. Hail Mary full of grace, the Lord is with you, Blessed are you among women, and Blessed is the fruit of your womb Jesus. Jesus Christ, Son of God, son of Mary, pray for us now and at the hour of our death.
My point is why ask Mary to intercede on for you instead of using that time to pray directly to God? I already highlighted the difference in an early post why asking a saint on earth for prayers in different from asking prayers from Mary. They are quiet different. If you mean by the follow quote by Matthew Olso:
then I find it very unbiblical and will vehemently oppose such idea.
As for the Protestant Hail Mary, I would not say such a thing except that which was recorded in Scripture: Mary is Blessed among women because Christ graciously choose to use her as His earthly mother. He could have used others but choose to use her, not because she is greater but because He is merciful. She is Blessed because Christ is King. I do her the greatest honor by looking upon her life which pointed to Jesus. And that alone shall I do, look to Jesus as my mediator.
Note: I will try to post my response to Matthew Olso's thread if I have time
My response to that would be: Why not ask Mary to pray for me if I feel so inclined?
My response to you would be why do you feel inclined to talk to her? And (this might be going around in circles from the previous page) how do you know that they can hear you?
Note: I'll respond to the other thread by Matthew Olso so people don't have to feel that this thread was hijacked
You asked the question and I answered it... and yes we have been around this in circles here and else where...
The way I see it is quite simple - if you feel drawn to ask Mary to pray for you then go ahead and ask her, if you don't feel drawn to do it then don't.
Why ask anyone to pray for us then?
I gave my response here:
I seen it, though I disagree.
I know but perhaps you can point out where it is wrong?
Well, I don't believe the Bible is the be all end all of Christianity. In other words, I don't believe the Bible contains everything about Christianity, it is such a rich religion and I don't believe that we need to limit ourselves to that. Though I do believe it is a Word of God but I also believe Tradition is too. That is what I mean.
But I do believe that we can pray the Rosary and pray to the Saints because we have a great cloud of witnesses surrounding us. I do not believe we need to limit who to ask to pray for us just because they may be in Heaven.
Live and let live!
Would you support someone venerating relics as some mysterious power given from above? If it hurts other individuals, do you think we should "Live and let live!" or correct the erroneous practice?
That's not what they are doing, here you are wrong.
I agree with you historyb. PC with respect you seem to be wanting to take this thread which is about the Anglican Rosary off topic. Some in the Anglican Communion feel drawn to ask the Saints to pray for them, and I don't believe your pointed questions and winking smilies will change the minds of those who feel so drawn.
Of the times I've prayed the Anglican rosary, I've prayed using this formula:
The Cross-In the Name of God, Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Amen.
The Invitatory-O God make speed to save me (us), O Lord make haste to help me (us), Glory to the Father, and to the Son, and to the Holy Spirit: As it was in the beginning, is now, and will be forever. Amen.
The Cruciforms-Holy God, Holy and Mighty, Holy Immortal One, Have mercy upon me (us).
The Weeks-Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, Have mercy on me, a sinner.
What is unbiblical or un-Anglican about this form of prayer?
I know that they are not exactly the same. What I am saying is that the idea of "Let and let live!" is not a valid idea if the practice is wrong
I just said in #129 that I didn't want others to feel that this thread was hijacked and so I posted my response in the other thread. I only responded here again because people were responding here.
I wasn't talking about the Anglican rosary; I was talking about praying to saints I said in post #129 that I would respond to prayers to saints in the other thread because it was more relevant. I only responded here because people keep responding here instead of there.
Note: Please respond to the other thread!
The problem being it is only your opinion if it is wrong or not. Just because we do something different from you does not make it objectively wrong, only subjectively wrong to you.
That's my favorite!