BCP 1559

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  1. Scottish Monk

    Scottish Monk Well-Known Member

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    What do some of you think about the BCP 1559?

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    The 1559 BCP grew out of Elizabeth's "Settlement" at the end of Bloody Mary's reign: slightly less Reformed than the 1552 and slightly more Reformed than 1662 BCP, if you're splitting hairs. It was significantly more Reformed than was desired by those that wished to return to the Latin church, and significantly less Reformed than was desired by those that wished the Reformation to continue. Thus unsatisfactory to all sides, its detractors cancelled each other out. There's no question who orchestrated the Settlement; the Queen. Before long, Reformers like Jewell and Parker were shuffled to the side and Erastians like Whitgift and Hooker rose in their place. The Reformed character of Anglicanism, thus arrested, owes its establishment in the CofE (with the 1662 BCP) more to Erastian political realities than to any ongoing conviction over theology and liturgy.
     
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    Interesting. Any suggestions for learning more about this period?

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    So your taste for Common Prayer lies in its poetry. Would that it become for you as haggis to a Scotsman.
     
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    I find your wording here extremely puzzling. Parker was not an obstacle to the Queen's efforts, but a strong support for her.
     
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    I prefer the 1662 BCP and the 1962 Canadian BCP, though i use the iPray BCP App on the iPhone for Divine Offices because it arranges all the propers and readings for each day.
     
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    Mr. Barton isn't really an Anglican, he views the Settlement of 1559 as a problem, which in itself reveals a tendency to view the Anglican ethos as inadequately Reformed.
     
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    Yet the Anglican Church is continually Catholic since the first Celtic Church was established in Britain. I get upset when people refer to Anglican as mere Protestant
     
  11. Scottish Monk

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    Hey--do you have any thoughts on the early Celtic Church before the Synod of Whitby (664)?

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    I am not an expert on the full history of the Celtic Church, but my Priest is
     
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    I do wear a silver Celtic Cross though, lol
     
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    Be careful which Celtic Christian books you look at or buy, some are new-age and have a universalist non-Christian bent to them.
     
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    Yes, I know. However, once you learn to discern the Christian Celtic genre from the rest, you are in for a blessing. That is, if you are interested in Celtic Christian history, art, and such. Send me a personal message if you want to continue to discuss Celtic Christianity.

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    So do I.

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